Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35157146)

After August it goes in to the Variety pack on Sky. All subs get it until then.

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Sky would never have agreed to that. Not for the VMtv channels.

VM got a lot out of that deal.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35157151)

How do you know? Sky obviously wanted the Virgin channels.


The question, that we'll never know the answer to is, did Virgin ever bring new channels up or were they so dumb, they didn't even think about it?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35157161)

Sorry matey but after disagree,VM seem to got squat out of the deal.Yes they may have got hd premium channels but at a cost of £7 and lets not forget didnt get all sports channels,Sky 1 by time all the good programmes have been ripped away to Sky atlantic wont be worth squat either.Loss of channels and not getting new ones,Way its going the 9 year carriage deal will be worth squat either.About time Vm admitted they took a huge risk selling to sky and already we are seeing the results of it and its only january,Things will get far worse if murdoch takes full control and vm will have no power to do anything about it.Tivo aint gonna be worth squat if the channels aren`t there,I myself will not risk tying myself to a 18 month contract for it and spending silly money.

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Lets face they were desperate to sell the channels,Sky new it and screwed them over yet again and vm still are not relising it.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35157170)

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair £7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35157179)

Not to forget that cheque for £167 Million, VM got a great deal.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35157181)

They could screw me for £167 million ( only joking ):rofl:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35157157)

That would be business sensitive.

Originally Posted by ianmac40 (Post 35157187)

TiVo app for iPad seems to have been confirmed.

http://kreative-technology.co.uk/wha...a-service.html

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35157189)

:erm: That's why I said we'll never know!

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35157170)

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair £7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35157170)

They were not desperate to sell - Sky gave the best offer, by a long shot.

Amongst other things.....

Sky Movies HD channels - you'd NEVER of got these without this deal

Sky RED button - As above (almost ready on this one)

Sky VoD - as above

Sky1HD - again, Sky would have never of given this to VM without the VMtv sale.

As a consumer you are free to choose what service provider you use, but VM is far from a poor choice.

Sky can't do VOD like VM can, so they only have their own channels as far as content is concerned.

It will be intersting once the Competition Commision has finished it's investigation in to Sky, with-holding VOD rights to competitiors, for movies it can't show.

VM are also persuing a complaint with Ofcom regarding the unfair £7 PER BOX rule that Sky imposes on them.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35157199)

I'm interested; do you think Virgin ever do anything wrong?

Don't get me wrong, I think Virgin offer a good service, but you seem to defend every single decision they make. No one gets everything right.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35157198)

All good points matey and believe me i want to give my hard earned money to vm rather than sky,But i love my telly and especially american shows.Currently i am very concerned about the future of vm from a tv point of view,Sky is looking again to be getting far superior and leaving vm behind,VOD doesn`t do anything for me i have a V+ box i record what i want to watch and not really bothered about old shows but i know its is popular with others.Just tad disappointed that vm didnt pull out all the stops to get atlantic,Think it would have restored some faith with some of us subscribers.I have always supported vm and believed they would one day provide real competion to sky however the faith is waivering at the min.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35157199)

I'm interested; do you think Virgin ever do anything wrong?

Don't get me wrong, I think Virgin offer a good service, but you seem to defend every single decision they make. No one gets everything right.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35157203)

He/She has to as per the brainwashing clause in the contract:erm:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35157207)

What's wrong with somebody being passionate about the company they work for? To me that's a good thing.