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Gary L 06-04-2009 00:28

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by DRZ400 (Post 34769596)
I only came here because me modem was bust! :(

Jesus doesn't do electricals mate.

kirk1690 06-04-2009 09:19

Re: The existence of God
 
[quote=Chris;34769584]Well, originally I was going to post that a dead man coming back to life after spending a couple of nights in a tomb is a more obvious target than a talking snake. Especially as only one of them is the keystone of the entire religion (clue - it's not the snake ................... WELL it wasn't originally some scholars believe ,early christians did not believe christ was resurrected but in order to give the faith a good boost this tale was invented and the catholic church didn't stop there and continue to invent unscriptural nonsense to this day , confession , mary worship , papal infallibilty the mass oh the list is endless .:monkey:

Russ 06-04-2009 09:27

Re: The existence of God
 
You won't find Chris or myself disagreeing with you about Catholicism - neither of us are its biggest fans :D

But where you got the idea from that early Christians did not believe the story of the resurrection I have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34769592)
He had 12 mates to help him do all that.

11 ;)

So they all had the idea of rolling the stone away just in case he might be alive? After watching him die? And by an amazing coincidence he was alive at that very moment?

kirk1690 06-04-2009 11:17

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34769675)
You won't find Chris or myself disagreeing with you about Catholicism - neither of us are its biggest fans :D

But where you got the idea from that early Christians did not believe the story of the resurrection I have no idea.

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11 ;)

So they all had the idea of rolling the stone away just in case he might be alive? After watching him die? And by an amazing coincidence he was alive at that very moment?

I think from a channel 4 documentary if I remember right, we only believe what we are taught I suppose and I trust channel 4 more than the bible , resurrection ? indeed !!!!

Hugh 06-04-2009 11:18

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34769597)
Jesus doesn't do electricals mate.

Ahem......

Jesus

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Originally Posted by kirk1690 (Post 34769734)
I think from a channel 4 documentary if I remember right, we only believe what we are taught I suppose and I trust channel 4 more than the bible , resurrection ? indeed !!!!

Big Brother? Indeed? ;)

Russ 06-04-2009 11:19

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by kirk1690 (Post 34769734)
I think from a channel 4 documentary if I remember right, we only believe what we are taught I suppose and I trust channel 4 more than the bible , resurrection ? indeed !!!!

Well it depends on whether the Channel 4 documentary was impartial. I'm sure you're going to say you felt it was, however it could have been biased towards atheism. As you don't have any links we have no idea if the producer/writer has a particular view they wanted to promote.

You don't seen to go along with the idea of a resurrection. So how would you describe a miracle? Something that can be explained by science?

kirk1690 06-04-2009 11:23

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34769739)
Well it depends on whether the Channel 4 documentary was impartial. I'm sure you're going to say you felt it was, however it could have been biased towards atheism. As you don't have any links we have no idea if the producer/writer has a particular view they wanted to promote.

You don't seen to go along with the idea of a resurrection. So how would you describe a miracle? Something that can be explained by science?

the samosatene doctrine www.earlychristianhistory.info/arius.html

Russ 06-04-2009 11:24

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by kirk1690 (Post 34769743)

Ok what you've done is link to a particular movement that raised the notion of there being no resurrection. It does not suggest that early Christianity itself had doubts.

lucy7 06-04-2009 11:52

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by DRZ400 (Post 34769515)
This is the only forum I know that Religions allowed to be discussed.



Beg to differ!

I googled Big Bang v God, Lots of stuff came up, including a sex sites forum post on the topic, and another site from America for pot users, I presume there were others, but those two caught my eye!

zing_deleted 06-04-2009 11:54

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Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34769769)
Beg to differ!

I googled Big Bang v God, Lots of stuff came up, including a sex sites forum post on the topic, and another site from America for pot users, I presume there were others, but those two caught my eye!

some of the most enlightened people in history have been stoned lol (ive done ok on this forum over the last few years ;) jk)

lucy7 06-04-2009 12:05

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by DRZ400 (Post 34769569)
I am probably the biggest supporter of the morals that the Christian religion teaches. :)


Pleased you are, my kids are too, and they(2 out of 3) are non believers too.
Its good to have the morals and values that are in the bible, can often be hard to keep to them, but one can try!

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34769772)
some of the most enlightened people in history have been stoned lol (ive done ok on this forum over the last few years ;) jk)


Stoned as in with pebbles and rock.......or the other kind!!;)

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34769366)
Just wondering about this. Do you actually mean your parents are Methodists and they made you go to church until you were 14?

That's what happened with me (except mine were Anglicans). By the time I was 14 I felt I was old enough to refuse to get out of bed on a Sunday morning. :D



Most kids do what their parents tell them to do, until about this age.
Teenagers at the hall I go to, if they stop coming to the meetings it is at about this age too.
Some seem to stay away for a couple of years or even more, then start coming back.
You can only go to Congregation meetings of any kind if you want to, not because your parents want you to.

Its called free will.

papa smurf 06-04-2009 16:00

Re: The existence of God
 
the top 50 reasons not to believe

http://godisimaginary.com/i3.htm

enjoy :)

Russ 06-04-2009 16:04

Re: The existence of God
 
That site is almost accurate! The closest yet...

papa smurf 06-04-2009 16:12

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34769914)
That site is almost accurate! The closest yet...

you read 50 pages in 4 mins :eeek:

Russ 06-04-2009 16:15

Re: The existence of God
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34769917)
you read 50 pages in 4 mins :eeek:

The page you linked to.

Why would I want to read the rest of it when I know God exists? It's just the same worn-out arguments, the same lines taken out of context, it's nothing new.

Incidentally why are you so eager to try and get people to think God doesn't exist?


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