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lymmranger

01-12-2009 12:10

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34918883)

Ahhh..thank you Russ... (Ask Kym to give you a kiss+hugs from me please)

I wonder though how many films, tracks, games would be made if there wasn't big money in it? Not as if a film is that dear?? Costs a few hundred million to make and you get it either on a really big screen for Â£5-8 or on a DVD for Â£10-20... The same with music, what's it equate to these days Â£1 a track..which you'll play over and over again.. The artist might make a load of each track but if everyone was to say well he can afford it if I don't pay then soon they'd be no tracks to buy (or download)

Anyway back on topic...

Yep, though would rather see it banned and that way action can be taken against anyone trying it, if discredited then you'll always get people trying it and they'll always be people scared or confused enough to pay :(

Agreed - I wish every poster on this epic thread was as insightful as yourself!!!!

Itshim

02-12-2009 11:44

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Sorry if I should have started a new post but I thought I would piggy back on this one
How would I know I `m a illegal file sharing site . :dozey:

Kymmy

02-12-2009 11:51

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

Do you download copyright material on P2P? Is your P2P client as standard (i.e it shares out/Seeds the sections it downloads)

If you answer YES to both of them questions then you do illegally file share..

Itshim

02-12-2009 12:24

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As I don`t understand what P2P ( peer to peer ?) really is and as far as I know I don`t down load any copyrighted material . I guess you have answered my question. I was concerned I might have done it without knowing. I take it that something would need to "set up". Sorry to be so stupid.

Kymmy

02-12-2009 12:28

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Do you use any software associated with TORRENTS like emule, bittorrent, limewire..etc..???

Chris

02-12-2009 12:29

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 34919600)

Yes, in order to share copyrighted media files from your computer over a peer-ro-peer network, you would have to install software that would enable you to do it, then set up that software to make it happen. It's not something you can find yourself doing by accident.

Itshim

02-12-2009 14:52

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

Thank you, that answers my question, & no I haven`t installed any of this type of software.
My motto has always been just because you are paranoid its doesn`t mean they are not after you. Always I fear the worst. Speed camera flashes - I sure am not the one but still I dread the post for 3 to 4 weeks just in case. I ve even noted a number plate that I think set it off next to me!!!

Chris

02-12-2009 15:07

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Originally Posted by Reedy (Post 34918341)

I was just sent this, they have a point!

http://imagehut.net/images/xb3svjxpuzf4ckclksws.jpg

Presumably you find the low wages of the studio hands and session musicians irrelevant in all of this. Creative arts aren't all about the few big stars at the top of the tree.

smithy099

17-12-2009 11:12

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

Hi everyone,

Can I ask does these letters apply to sites like netload, rapidshare etc? or just to p2p networks.

If you are worried would it be wise to speak to your ISP and ask if they have passed your details onto a third party?

Kymmy

17-12-2009 11:18

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

Doubtful if the ISP would give details like that..

But you are right in assuming it's currently purely P2P as they are simply waiting for you to download a small section and the P2P software then offers that small section for download by others directly from your own PC (and hence your IP) and that's how they justify that you were "SHARING" the file.

For Rapidshare they could I suppose always just get a court order for the uploaders IP and then get another order for the IP details but they have yet to go this route..

smithy099

17-12-2009 11:25

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

[/COLOR]So do they have to download all of the file that is being shared as proof or just a small portion?

Kymmy

17-12-2009 11:32

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Just a small portion, as long as the file hash matches the original then they believe that they have a case..

May I suggest that although it is a long thread you read it all as there's some good advice in here

smithy099

19-12-2009 15:15

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

Hi,

Can I ask that if you receive a letter what is the normal timescale between the supposed offence being and getting a letter. Essentially how far back do these people go?

Is there a limit?

Thanks

Kymmy

19-12-2009 15:22

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?

No idea if there is a statute of limitations on this but you'll probably find that they're doing it in stages.. they monitor for a few months, then apply for the court order to allow them to aquire the ISP details, then they submit the requests to the ISP's and then they send out the letters..

I'd suggest that if you haven't got anything in 8-12 months then you are not gonna.. But remember that this is their 3rd/4th mailings each one is based on a different game/film/track so because you've never recieved a letter if you continue to download illegal material you might get one in the future

lymmranger

19-12-2009 15:57

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@ smithy099 -

.........Don`t forget this is a "business" to the likes of ACS

....they will wait/delay as long as possible, so that by the time you recieve their "speculative invoice" the only tangible evidence remaining is their own:mad:

many letter recipients have even moved house by the time they recieve a claim!

...you should also be aware that if you are guilty of this type of "shopping" then only a solicitor can help. If you are innocent help is readily available for those prepared to help themselves

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