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Had a strange issue with one programme, I’ve had problems both recording the programme Operation Crossbow on BBC2band then watching the programme on iPlayer, maybe an EPG error?

Originally set up to record this programme on BBc2 when it was first shown last week and found that the recording didn’t get to the end of the programme by what seemed 15 minutes so an EPG error.

However I also recorded a repeat of the programme and that missed the last 10 minutes so have the BBC messed up their EPG data or something?

I decided to watch the programme on iPlayer this morning at the programme kept stopping before the end by around 5 to 10 minutes. But the full programme was there if you fast forward to the end so it took me 3 attempts to actually watch the last 15 minutes of the programme! Very strange and not sure what was happening there!


I've sent a PM to Nick on the VM forums to notify VM if it is an EPG error.

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We are aware of the odd random programme on BBC iPlayer doing this, but odd that it's happened on a recording too :confused:

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http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/pvrs/...media-tivo-1tb

Interesting that the reviewer seems to agree with Jethro UK

You can set up series links, but this is a bit convoluted. You have to select the programme, then enter a menu and select ‘Get a Series Link’, it then takes you into a low-res menu with options to set up your series link - such as just new episodes, or new and re-runs - before taking a few seconds to confirm it and return you to the first menu.

In general though excellent review and a good result for TIVO and VM.

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Yes l agee as well.

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The trouble is, people expect a setup that includes several options to take the same time as a setup with no options. That's not possible, and I personally prefer the options.

It could be speeded up if you could set your own defaults for these options, and Tivo rememberd them. But TBH, it's only going to make a few seconds difference.

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I too have had the same problem with a few recordings on the BBC as well, No other channels which I have recorded have had this problem:confused:

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To be honest it got a good write up and when little bits are added and niggles sorted it should get even better.

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And then you will be forced to go to the good side.;):D

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Come on in Muppetman! The water is lovely and you will be amongst friends!:romance:

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l always thought Muppetman was the soft romantic type.:D:);)

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Yes, can't complain at a five star review!

Let's hope VM get more HD channels then you can come back to the good side and sample the delghts of tivo :D

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LOL we'll see how the next 10 months pans out :D

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This seems like a good point to add the usual moan.. err i mean HD wish list, in order of preference as well
Sports 3
Sports 4
Disney Cinemagic
Movies classic
Universal
Atlantic
ITV2
ITV3
ITV4
Sports News
Good Food (for the Mrs)
:tiptoe:

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We have got all of those channels or do you mean the HD versions of these channels:)

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Apart from Atlantic (sadly).

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Which is factually incorrect. A default SL can be set in TWO CLICKS.

(Haven't actually read the review yet.)

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Anybody recorded a radio programme yet? I put in a wishlist based on the name of the great blues rock guitarist Joe Bonamassa and Tivo has picked up a programme dedicated to him on Planet Rock next week.

Just wondering how reliable radio recording is?

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Whoops :(

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I do not know how reliable the recording of radio is, But thank you for the programme info. I will be listening to it :D:D:D:D

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On the recordings, on the first attempt to record Operation Crossbow, I can confirm the live TV programme definitely started late compared to EPG times which the Tivo followed. I knew this as I was watching it live while recording it as didn't plan to watch it to the end so new the programme started "late".

However the chances of this happening twice seems to much of a coincidence and even if there was a delay, the EPG certainly didn't get corrected and I thought it was meant o be updated every 20 minutes.

Anyway, watched it al in the end so just raising as an example of a potential EPG issue as per NickO request to report on the VM Forum.

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Cheers, going to see him in October at Nottingham Arena and Iron Maiden in July as well (noticed your Avatar!).

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You are a jammy ? as I have got a new child on the way at any moment my money is otherwise spent. I wanted to go and see the big 4 this year but hey ho:mad:

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Yes feel very lucky both are coming to Nottingham. Another time for you from the sound of it, been there and have 2 kids myself.

Suppose better get back onto Tivo now and looking forward to see what happens on this first radio recording for me, was good to see wishlists picked it up!

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I can not see it for the big 4 in the next ? But as you say back to TiVo.

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Yes l would love to see the legendary Iron Maiden with the mighty Bruce Dickinson at the helm.

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*Dickinson

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Yes okay Hugh trust you to keep a eye on my spelling.;)

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If you are a Metal fan you will know how to spell the surnames of the lead/ band members:erm:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/05/23.gif

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Trust you attack me at my weakest master.:D;)

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My ass laugh off:D:D:D:D

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I've got several series links for radio programmes and they work great. One of my whishlists has also picked up some radio shows ----- an unexpected plus.

I do find fast forwarding doesn't work very well; someone on the VM Tivo forum has suggested it's because fast forward works on video frames, which of course are absent in radio shows.

Another positive TiVo review...
 

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I already beat you to it on the General TIVO thread :D

Decent read.

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So I see. It is a good read and it is good that positive reviews are coming out of it.

All the negatives they mention are all fixable with software updates so lets hope VM take notice.

And that's the first time I've had a thread moved or had a mod decision against me. I feel......er......violated :angel: :LOL:

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The latest "Tivo-bashing" thread over on the DS Forums - If Tivo User Interface was created by a college student do you think they would get their degree? - seems to be back-firing somewhat as most people are answering 'yes' :D

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There's only two replied and ones you :D

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Don't have to post to take part in a poll though

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Very true that's me not reading properly , I just read the posts and didn't see the poll apologies Carl :D

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Sorry but the SD screens look crap on TIVO, why haven't they got around to upgrading them to HD, its only a bit of flash :shocked:

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You say that like it's just case of ticking a checkbox marked "Use Flash". You do realise that each "screen" is a huge amount of code written in C or C++ that would have to be completely re-written, right?

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While I see your point fully , this has been a massive complaint for many TIVO Premiere users since It arrived in April 2010 so I would have thought some 13 months on they may have rectified this issue.

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Don't get me wrong here, I'd also like for more of the UI to be updated. Thing is, we don't know what's being done behind the scenes at TiVo HQ to rectify the problem. It's also possible that as extra functionality is added to the VM version of the TiVo software that parts of the UI will be re-coded in Flash while they're at it.

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Yeah I think it will arrive at some point. :D

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Not to mention user testing to ensure it works.
It won't be an overnight job...well unless they're all doped up on caffeine! :p:

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I agree. Not sure how easy Flash is to programme though, so I can't comment on that bit.

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Well I didn't think it would be that easy. Seems I was right ;)

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I think you might find that the SD screens aren't flash, that's the problem.

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Again, not something I knew.

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What I don't understand, Lew, is that there already seem to be HD versions of some of the functions but they are not always accessed.

Off the top of my head, I can't remember them but I will note them down and add to this thread.

I think 'Upcoming Episodes' is one.

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I didn't realise but I have 3 recordings set for 9pm tonight. Does it not tell me that they will clash when I set the 3rd 9pm recording?

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No, you'll get a pop up window a couple of minutes before saying it needs to change channel and ask you whether you want it to or whether you want to cancel one of the recordings. Mine did it last night but the only reason they clashed was because of padding.

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Given that it can record three things at once, and assuming there are no padding issues, why would/should it warn you? :confused:

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OK I didn't know that the low res screens are not in flash, but any decent programmer wouldn't code directly to the display UI but have function calls which the UI calls

It only becomes harder if you want to add more features which don't have functions already available

The current low res screens really let down the visual performance of TIVO when trying to sell it to mates :(

And coding a UI in flash is very simple even for a half witted programmer ;)

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The same reason the V+ did with two tuners, so you know not to attempt to watch a fourth? :confused:
Iv been caught out a couple of times.

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V+ had a dedicated live tuner, so didn't warn you if you swapped channels as it wouldn't affect any recordings

Only reason it warned of clashes if you were trying to set 3 recordings at the same time. TiVo will do the same if you try to set 4 at the same time I think.

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Or if you attempt to set three recordings but padding causes issues.

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It seems that the screens that have both HD and SD versions available (such as the recording options and series link screens) depend on where you're accessing them from. If you access them from a screen with the discovery bar then you get the HD version (which is why the trick of selecting "Explore this show" from the recording dialog works to get the HD series link screen). Accesing them directly from the guide gets you the SD version. The guide does seem to be separate from the main HD UI as can be seen by the fact that the screens with the discovery bar correctly pillarbox 4:3 content in the mini video window, but in the guide they're stretched to fit the mini window.

Thing is, we don't know how much legacy code there is in the SD sections of the code. With the TiVo product being over 10 years old who knows how much cruft there is?

I agree. It wouldn't be quite so bad if it didn't mean losing the picture and sound of the programme you're watching. Still, I'm willing to wait and see what they can do now that they've actually got TiVo working to an extent on VM's system.

I'm sure it is, but there's more to TiVo than just the UI. It needs to hook into the underlying code correctly as well.

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But what if you unwillingly set 3 records then go to watch live tv at the same time?

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Do the 3 red lights on the front of box not give you a hint? ;)

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Bit late by then, clever clogs.

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Then you can chose what programme you want to lose so you can watch the 4th channel

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Well that took a few posts, but we got there. Thats my point, you will have to lose a recording. Surely if your warned before hand, ie when setting the recordings, you have a chance to choose a later repeat ( if available)?

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Warned how? It's not a clash, because you are asking for 3 recordings with 3 tuners. TiVo doesn't know that you might want to watch a 4th channel or not at the time you set the recordings or series link (which may have been weeks or months before)

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I'm sure you'll cope , my Sky box only has two tuners meaning I can only record 2 and watch a recorded show :D

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But a simple 'warning' not to attempt to watch a prog at these times, similar to its padding 'clashes' wouldnt hurt.
As iv set three recordings before at the same time, accidentally, gone off to work and left the wife bermused at the 'pop up' when the recordings start.

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I do. Just another gripe :)

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I think you are over complicating things :D

if you get the pop up, you can choose which one to cancel, TiVo will then see that recording as a clash and search for the next repeat.

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Just thought I would share the nice surprise call I just had. I got my Tivo installed on the 3rd May, but never got the call for the free multi room offer with my old silver Samsung box. For some odd reason my parents got a call concerning my Tivo install, despite being moved out for 6 years.

I sent an email saying I would have loved to have taken up the free multiroom, but seeing as they rang the wrong house, its probably a bit late now my old box has gone.

Then tonight I get a phone call saying they have just found my email and would I still be interested in the offer. I said I would but my box got taken away, so he said I could have a free V+ box, free install and no monthly charge.

V pleased! :tu::D

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At last, someone on a 'help forum'.... 'helped'!;)

Thanks. Didnt know it searches for an alternative recording if available.

Would still like a pre warning (ok ill stop now.....)

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Okay. Now I'm embarrased as I thought it would be obvious it does that. I keep forgetting that a lot of people have no prior experience of Tivo :o::dunce:

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Anyone else getting "Sorry, there's been a technical glitch. Unfortunately, you won't be able to record this programme." when trying to record from Tv listing on the website.

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There is a known issue with Remote Record at present

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...in/td-p/512487

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Seems this issue is all to regular if the forums are to believed. :confused:

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Thanks for the quick replies will try again later and see if it works then.

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Just seen posts in the other thread

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l have not had this issue.

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I'm glad for you :D

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I thinks it's an ongoing fault with the mobile site, the full fat site is fine.

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Yeah, had it for a few days

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I find WL difficult for some progs which are repeated oftern like CSI's. Theres isnt a clear way of just recording certain ones like new versions of the NY series....
I think the media guide data needs to be spot on, which it dosent seem to....

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Im having it on the full fat site too

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Blimey how do you remote record? New to TiVo so not aware of all the options yet.

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From the help site:

Can I go online or use my mobile to set recordings on my TiVo box?

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CHEERS for the mobile site, works a treat with my HTC Desire!

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Thanks BenMcr for the quick reply!

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Yes a very Interesting read Muppetman.

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Seems to be an EPG problem on TiVo ,VM forum states new installs will not get any EPG and existing customers will get no EPG download.

:shocking:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../515011/page/2

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Oh well I have to say that I have still got a TV Listings magazine :erm:

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Just a thought , why do a TiVo install if they can`t get EPG ,Oh wait they can use it as a door stop.

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Why can people not use the TV listing guides in the papers instead of waiting for the TV to tell them what to do:confused::confused::confused::confused:

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Possibly because they hope to have the problem sorted shortly and they don't want to get into a situation of having a back-log of installs.

Or is that too much like common sense for you? ;):D

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Back with a bang Carl:erm:

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had mine installed today and had this epg mess, was told by the installer that it was only temporary and it'll be fully functioning in no time. that was at 1 o'clock and i've since rang them and it's unlikely to be resolved until tomorrow evening i was told. shambles really.

have 'to be announced' on every channel and have to input the parental code every time i change channel as it won't turn off while its like this.

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Because l do not buy papers.:D:D:D;):D:D:D

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I call it as I see it. (If I didn't see it I make it up!) ;) (Kidding!)

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I haven't reguarly bought a paper TV guide since about 2002 :D

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How do you pass the time in the toilet? ;)

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I know that Carl was just having a dig at Vm ,they are getting enough stick from new TiVo users about the red button, no live PPV, no REMINDERS, so why give themselves more grief by installing it with no abillity for record,wishlists, suggestions ect. If you had used some common sense you would have realised this

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Erm... no. Not at all. That's the problem with plain written text. You cannot tell anything other than the words on the page. Which is why I added the appropriate emoticons to mine; to show the remark was not to be taken seriously.

As there were no such indications in your post, I had no choice but to take what you wrote at face value.

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I have to say, I didn't even notice that EPG data hadn't updated, is it fixed now?

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I think so. My box has been stuck on "Preparing to connect" all morning but now it seems to be loading the data (currently at 68%).

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Good stuff :tu: I suppose you'd only really notice if you tried going 14 days in advance which I haven't so didn't notice

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Well Watch's (124) data for Saturday has been wrong for a while, so hopefully that will change now, too :)

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My toilet time is very private as l listen to the radio and use my mobile phone.:D:D:D;):D:D:D

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Try using toilet paper:erm:

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Did anyone else record the film Deja Vu from last Saturday night?

It was on BBC 1 and BBC1 HD and the TV Guide shows that the program is 2hr 8 mins in length (and IMDB gives the film length as 2hr 6 mins).

I set the program to record from the HD channel with no padding, however when watching it, the recording stopped before the end. It turns out that it had recorded 1hr 54mins and as the film didn't start until about the 4th minute of the recording it meant that I missed the last quarter of an hour. :mad:

I have had the end of BBC recordings clipped before (as I know others have) but 15 minutes is unbelievable. How much padding do we need to add to recordings before they get this sorted out?? :td: :td:

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Yes l use the Harrods high class premuim version.:D:D