Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

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Totally irrelevant to my point.

Feel free to respond to my post, properly, or not…….if you can’t…..I see you’ve struggled recently.

OLD BOY

22-10-2025 00:34

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36205043)

You said

I showed the fact that since 1980, the EHCR has prevented 13 Deportations.

How will getting rid of something that has only prevented 1 deportation every 3 and 1/2 years, and heard only 29 cases from the UK (1 every year and a half on average), make it easier to deport people.

Show your workings…

I told you, rulings set precedents, encourage more appeals. The number is unimportant, it is the ramifications of those decisions that are important.

Appeals delay or prevent deportations. We need to abolish that process. It’s not difficult to understand, Hugh.

Hugh	22-10-2025 11:09

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36205064)

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Totally irrelevant to my point.

Feel free to respond to my post, properly, or not…….if you can’t…..I see you’ve struggled recently.

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1andrew1

22-10-2025 11:55

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One particular point Brexiters are fond of talking about is the impact of Covid on the UK economy. What some fail to understand is how the toll of planning for a no-deal Brexit meant the way we dealt with Covid was poor. As I said at the time, we should have paused Brexit to concentrate on Covid.

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The UK “failed” its citizens in its response to coronavirus after planning for the “wrong pandemic”, with preparations for a no-deal Brexit diverting the state’s attention from potential public health crises, the Covid-19 inquiry has found...

Hallett rejected claims made by UK officials in evidence that the country was as well-prepared as anywhere in the world to deal with a pandemic before Covid struck.

“In reality, the UK was ill-prepared for dealing with a catastrophic emergency, let alone the coronavirus pandemic,” she said, adding that the government had committed “a fundamental error” in not learning from other countries’ experiences of coronaviruses in previous years.

https://archive.ph/eriI0

Carth

22-10-2025 13:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36205084)

Not forgetting all the good work the Remain parties did by constantly undermining (by any legal or underhand method they came up with) anything the Leave party put forward to ease or define the process . . both before and after the 'vote'

Possibly if everyone had said 'fine, it's done, how can we make it better? ' things would have gone more smoothly :p:

Sephiroth

22-10-2025 14:03

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36205084)

What’s Andrew’s point? That we would have had a better Brexit if Covid hadn’t happened?

Or: weren’t the EU countries lucky in dealing with Covid in that they didn’t have to plan for no-deal Brexit?

So far as I can see, many countries around the world implemented lockdown because Covid was unknown as to clinical outcomes, it was particularly contagious and there was no vaccine.

As it turned out, there was very little difference in behaviour and outcome between the European type countries.

Pierre

22-10-2025 15:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36205084)

Wow, that's a stretch. It's because of Brexit we locked everyone down, closed schools, payed people to take up pottery and crashed the economy that our great grand children will still be paying for it?

1andrew1

22-10-2025 15:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36205100)

Our plans for Covid were inferior to many other countries' and the enquiry found that government and civil servants were distracted by planning for a no-deal Brexit. With better Covid planning from not planning for a no-deal Brexit, the economy would have not taken such a hit.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36205111)

Not a stretch, the Covid 19 enquiry found the state’s attention was distracted from potential public health crises by planning for a no-deal Brexit.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36205100)

What’s Andrew’s point? That we would have had a better Brexit if Covid hadn’t happened?

Close but I can't award you any points, Seph. We would have had better management of Covid if planning for a no-deal Brexit hadn’t happened.

Carth

22-10-2025 15:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36205113)

<snippety snip>

We would have had better management of Covid if planning for a no-deal Brexit hadn’t happened.

. . fighting both the EU and the Remain camp throwing obstacles in the way at every suggestion or plan

1andrew1

22-10-2025 16:22

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36205117)

. . fighting both the EU and the Remain camp throwing obstacles in the way at every suggestion or plan

Johnson's choice to prioritise Brexit no-deal preparations over Covid.

Pierre

22-10-2025 16:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36205113)

Not a stretch, the Covid 19 enquiry found the state’s attention was distracted from potential public health crises by planning for a no-deal Brexit.
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Well if you believe that arse covering bollocks, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

Carth

22-10-2025 17:05

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36205125)

Well if you believe that arse covering bollocks, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

Damn, I was gonna sell him the Isle of Wight

1andrew1

22-10-2025 17:13

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