Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Yes, these little "oversights" make all the difference though don't they? I'm not sure why but the expression "more faces than a town hall clock" has just sprung into my mind.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Rubber glove time.

http://www.phorm.com/user_privacy/pr...act_report.php

End of second paragraph.

"We will work with 80/20 Thinking on an ongoing basis throughout the year to complete the assessment and ensure we confirm our leading privacy standards." (my emphasis)

Anybody know if that's a recent change?

I'm certain the PIA won't be released if it is seen to be negative to phorm, but we have had our 'expectations managed' so i'm not expecting it to be.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Not at all, as Simon has stated on here himself he has been waiting for information back from the ISPs is he supposed to sit around on his backside and neglect his other duties just because the ISPs are dragging their heals?

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

No, of course not. Nicely defended.

Spot on, which is why all this 'wait to see what the PIA says' lark is a complete waste of time.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

No it is not. This is a small cap, thinly traded stock with high volitility. When you buy or sell you are likely to be doing it through a market maker that needs to hold inventory to be able to make that market. Market makers don't like holding inventory that costs them money, a cost to carry and a cost or risk of price falling to less than you paid. To mitigate this latter risk the spread, the difference between buying and selling prices widens.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

More thoughts on copyrights.

In the old days when 121Media were scamming copyright pages, it was difficult for people to know that someone was ripping off their content, or discover who was doing it.

Now BT/Virgin Media/Talk Talk are doing it, its very easy. They have made announcements on their web site. They have UK registered addresses. They will (presumeably) announce to advertisers '3% of our customers have opted in to Phorm!'

So it occurs to me. Its rather like a pirate radio station going legit.

How do I get from BT statistics for 'playout'?

We need a PRS for web content creators;

"The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 means that if you use copyright music in public, you must first obtain permission from every writer or composer whose music you intend to play. In the UK, we represent these copyright owners, so a PRS Music Licence gives you the legal permission to play just about any copyright music in the world repertoire. A PRS Music Licence is required regardless of the ownership of any other type of licence"

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sounds like you might know a bit more about this stocky sharey thingy than most of us. :tu:

What's you take on todays events?

Given it is thinly traded, it does not take much to drive the price up. But, there is not much point in doing so if it's just going to come back down again, you just loose your money.

Someone decided that today, the shares would rise and there must be a reason. Any ideas?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

You could be right there before there was noone like phorm trying to legit steal your work or customers now thye are just like the music industry you need protection from the vulchers.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

They did another buy at 4:29 if I've read it right..smelly.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I have to admit I have been wondering a lot about that issue lately. Not just in relation to the PIA but also the mysterious case of the vanishing video. Not sure what I think on it yet but it is on my mind.

Phorm do seem to be playing a wiser tactical game these days. They have reigned in the PR team (I bizarrely miss them too, how messed up is that? LOL) and do seem to have upped their game some.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

OK I had a reply from Nicholas Bohm. He pointed out that whereas a Judicial Review might be possible the risk is high since the loser may be liable for the other side's costs. Obviously if a litigant in person wins and the authority lose, the cost liability to the authority is going to be minor and gets paid for out of tax payers money anyway; the reverse however is a much heavier liability should the litigant lose as the authority are likely to have a legal team of barristers and Queen's Counsel.

He does agree that Parliamentary Ombudsman would be a reasonable avenue to pursue but warns that it is a very slow process.

I will therefore be pushing forward on that route and will have to forget the Judicial Review route.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

them wise! never they conmen

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

And i'm sure a WCCRS licence would have to be very expensive. :angel:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

This may be an old idea but keeping in mind "6 degrees of separation" if all the folk who use Facebook, Myspace, etc explained the Phorm/Webwise situation to all their friends and asked them to pass it along we might reach out to lots of people who are as yet unaware of the threat and who otherwise might opt-in out of ignorance of the true facts.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I didn't say they were wise I said they were using wiser tactics. Not difficult, though, considering they started off incredibly stupidly.