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denphone 26-08-2019 09:15
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007563)
What? Of course they have a future. Mind you, bigger companies may consume them, as Comcast has with Sky.
Quelle surprise one company buys another company as that has happened since the year dot...

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The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead.
Contradictions are your middle name..;)

Chris 26-08-2019 09:16
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007563)
What? Of course they have a future. Mind you, bigger companies may consume them, as Comcast has with Sky.

The fact that pay tv channels will be a thing of the past in years to come will not impact on Sky or Virgin, who will simply offer packages of streaming services instead.
OB, your posts remind me of the sort of futurologist bollards I used to love reading when I was in primary school. All about how inthefuture, we would all be living in the sky and farting hydrogen which would be harvested to fuel silent aeroplanes.

My favourite book at one point was “Exploring the World of Robots.” Disappointingly, 40 years later I still don’t have robots called Maid Without Tears or Quasar to serve me coffee or hoover my lounge. :scratch:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807436

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807511

OLD BOY 26-08-2019 10:54
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36007566)
OB, your posts remind me of the sort of futurologist bollards I used to love reading when I was in primary school. All about how inthefuture, we would all be living in the sky and farting hydrogen which would be harvested to fuel silent aeroplanes.

My favourite book at one point was “Exploring the World of Robots.” Disappointingly, 40 years later I still don’t have robots called Maid Without Tears or Quasar to serve me coffee or hoover my lounge. :scratch:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807436

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1566807511
So glad to find that I have entertained you, Chris. :blush:

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36007564)
Quelle surprise one company buys another company as that has happened since the year dot...

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Contradictions are your middle name..;)
I think you are just a little confused, Den. ;)

1andrew1 29-08-2019 19:32
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FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f

OLD BOY 29-08-2019 19:52
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36007987)
FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f
I imagine a lot of streaming services will offer both options in the end.

denphone 29-08-2019 20:33
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007988)
I imagine a lot of streaming services will offer both options in the end.
Including Netflix.;)

jfman 29-08-2019 20:51
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36007987)
FT is reporting that YouTube is moving to an advertising model, due to the competition in the market. Premium will still continue as an option.
Upcoming original TV shows will be free to watch, but its back catalogue will remain behind a paywall for contractural reasons.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ee64494-...4-3669401ba76f
Interesting. The subscription streaming market alone doesn’t have space for YouTube, parent company Google owned by Alphabet...

*checks notes*

the fourth biggest company in the world.

OLD BOY 29-08-2019 21:18
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007994)
Interesting. The subscription streaming market alone doesn’t have space for YouTube, parent company Google owned by Alphabet...

*checks notes*

the fourth biggest company in the world.
The amount and quality of the content on YouTube does not attract enough subscribers. They are asking a lot for their premium service and I am not surprised the take-up isn't there.

Disney + and other big players coming to our shores will show that there certainly is a space in the market for their subscription services, but as I said above, they will make a lot more money by also offering a lesser service with commercials. That gives them and us the best of both worlds.

jfman 29-08-2019 21:23
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36007995)
The amount and quality of the content on YouTube does not attract enough subscribers. They are asking a lot for their premium service and I am not surprised the take-up isn't there.

Disney + and other big players coming to our shores will show that there certainly is a space in the market for their subscription services, but as I said above, they will make a lot more money by also offering a lesser service with commercials. That gives them and us the best of both worlds.
Big company, deep pockets, could blow Sky away for sports rights, etc etc.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 08:51
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36007997)
Big company, deep pockets, could blow Sky away for sports rights, etc etc.
Yes, they could. If that was the only place where football fans could get their fix, of course they would get the subscribers that way.

However, the programmes available on YouTube's premium service simply don't appeal in the same way as Netflix and Prime do, and they want more than Netflix are charging for it!

Too little content, not very popular material at that.

jfman 30-08-2019 08:59
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36008016)
Yes, they could. If that was the only place where football fans could get their fix, of course they would get the subscribers that way.

However, the programmes available on YouTube's premium service simply don't appeal in the same way as Netflix and Prime do, and they want more than Netflix are charging for it!

Too little content, not very popular material at that.
The same rules apply to Alphabet as everyone else though. They could acquire content, buy production companies, other content owners/distributors?

If the fourth biggest company in the world is weary of going all in here why do the same rules not apply to Amazon or $20bn in debt Netflix?

Disney aren't protected from market forces the way you seem to believe they are.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 09:12
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36008018)
The same rules apply to Alphabet as everyone else though. They could acquire content, buy production companies, other content owners/distributors?

If the fourth biggest company in the world is weary of going all in here why do the same rules not apply to Amazon or $20bn in debt Netflix?

Disney aren't protected from market forces the way you seem to believe they are.
Not sure what you are saying here, but surely, this is YouTube's choice.

Disney is a big company with masses of content. They are in a different league altogether with their treasure trove of scripted content. Their offering will be very popular and success is pretty well guaranteed.

denphone 30-08-2019 09:17
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36008022)
Not sure what you are saying here, but surely, this is YouTube's choice.

Disney is a big company with masses of content. They are in a different league altogether with their treasure trove of scripted content. Their offering will be very popular and success is pretty well guaranteed.
Disney does have plenty of very good content especially in their older library of content.

There is no guarantee of success but their chances are far better then most of the other streaming companies l would say.

jfman 30-08-2019 10:16
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36008023)
Disney does have plenty of very good content especially in their older library of content.

There is no guarantee of success but their chances are far better then most of the other streaming companies l would say.
Disney is a big company that makes masses of revenue in existing distribution models. Revenue that will be reduced significantly and put pressure for quick results on the DTH sales figure.

OLD BOY 30-08-2019 12:52
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36008030)
Disney is a big company that makes masses of revenue in existing distribution models. Revenue that will be reduced significantly and put pressure for quick results on the DTH sales figure.
Yes, they will lose revenues from distribution, but you forgot to add what they will gain from subscribers. I am sure they will play it by ear.

If they fail to make sufficient from subscribers, they will employ other measures, such an AVOD version of Disney +, or perhaps enabling some of their material to be aired on other platforms.

I wouldn't be writing them off just yet, jfman.:p:


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