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There are TV channels that operate with a far lower budget then ITV. Literally every single one that isn't run by the BBC.

I agree content costs money, the rest of it is too small to be relevant. ITV, and others can and will maintain a presence even when they are primarily streaming.

I don't know why you ask "can't you see?" the answer is emphatically no. Because your argument has no sound basis in economics.

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Maybe you should expand on that argument, particularly given that this mantra of yours contradicts what the industry itself believes will happen.

In fact, I've been using the economic arguments for some time to add to my case that the streamers will take over from the scheduled channels.

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[QUOTE=jfman;36007022]There are TV channels that operate with a far lower budget then ITV. Literally every single one that isn't run by the BBC.

I agree content costs money, the rest of it is too small to be relevant. ITV, and others can and will maintain a presence even when they are primarily streaming.

I don't know why you ask "can't you see?" the answer is emphatically no. Because your argument has no sound basis in economics.[/QUOTE]

So it is economic to run channels at a loss? Was it the LSE you went to, jfman, or was it the Diane Abbot School of Economics?

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Why should we pay for Britbox when that content is currently available free of charge? You can record things you like and watch them whenever you want (even when the broadband is playing up) which for lots of people is far less messing about than streaming.

Is it right that the BBC proposes to make content exclusively for the paid for Britbox service when we are paying a licence fee to cover its 'free' channels?

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Britbox will turn out to be a totally damp squib as it will arrive to a great fanfare and then disappear about a year or two later.

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Nobody is forcing anyone to subscribe to Britbox. Continue to watch what you want if and when it is scheduled on 'normal' tv if you want to, that is fine for the time being.

In the future, the licence fee will be scrapped and you will be able to access Britbox UK by using that saving to subscribe to the streamer. Or use it somewhere else if that is your preference.

I don't know where you get the idea that you can watch what you want on scheduled tv. If I wanted to watch 'The Bodyguard' right now, how would I do that on scheduled tv? Pray tell, because it totallly eludes me!

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If a series link is set, it will suddenly appear as a pleasant surprise next time it is repeated.

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Regarding Britbox i'm a bit surprised that they didn't try to get channel 4 and channel 5 onboard too.

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[QUOTE=OLD BOY;36007029]Maybe you should expand on that argument, particularly given that this mantra of yours contradicts what the industry itself believes will happen.

In fact, I've been using the economic arguments for some time to add to my case that the streamers will take over from the scheduled channels.

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You haven't demonstrated that it won't be viable for major content owners - who will be streaming - to maintain a linear presence.

Channels are viable with small tens of thousands of viewers such is the low cost of broadcast television.

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Not there and then, though which was my point. And there is no guarantee it will be repeated anyway.

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No, it won't be a damp squib at all. There will be original content on there that isn't available anywhere else, as well as tons of archive material, some of which is currently on Gold, Aibi and the like. You were one of the people who chastised me for saying that the UKTV channels were poor value because most of their material was repeats. You said that there were many people who loved watching programmes over and over. You can't have it both ways.

People will take Britbox for both the original material and for the archive material. Look how popular the i-Player has become.

By the way, this is what will replace the main terrestrial channels and, I believe, the i-Player and ITV Hub in the fullness of time.

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They have been in discussions with Channel 4 and it may well be they will get on board soon. Not sure about whether Chanel 5 will join the club - it would be a neat solution if they did.

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[QUOTE=jfman;36007062] Yes, if they show old or rubbish content. Why would the popular channels incur unecessary expense by getting expensive rights to air on a pay tv channel when they need only load up to a streamer?

You're the economist, you tell me.

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1/ The reason Britbox will fail is one the streaming market is already too deeply concentrated with other streaming services.

2/ How many streaming services do you think people can afford? as there is only so much money that swirls around in people pockets and Britbox is a little pygmy in the land of giants.

3/ People are already paying for much of the content that will be on Britbox.

And there are several other reasons beside.

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Britbox is no i-Player and has had to change its remit to try to survive in the competitive streaming world.

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I guess we will soon see, eh, Den? I dare say there are plenty of people around who would get the Britbox streamer rather than one of the US streamers. I am often astounded by those people who have an aversion to US material, but there are plenty of them out there.

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The terrestrial channels will be there long into the future but of course that does not suit your narrative..

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l have no aversion to content wherever it comes from as long as its decent content at a reasonable price..

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That's not what the TV industry is planning for, Den. Still, I guess you know best...:rolleyes:

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Why would a company who does streaming and linear have to pay for rights twice?

I'm unsure if you are deliberately misrepresenting points or whether you are genuinely incapable of understanding them.

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According to you its you who knows everything and nobody else knows nothing...