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absolutely - so Brexiteer MPs threatening a vote of no confidence is completely different from Remainer MPs threatening a vote of no confidence.

Thanks for the clarification...

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Still wrong.

Perhaps if you opened your eyes instead of posting childish memes all over the place, which you need to stop doing, as this is not facebook or twitter, you will realise what the difference between a leadership challenge is and a motion of no confidence in the Government is - big bloody difference.

Where did the Brexiteer MPs threaten vote of no confidence in the government ?

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Don't fret Mick, he obvously had no clue as to the thrust of my post.

Tomorrow's another day. She may survive, she may not. Who actually knows?

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Where did Remainer MPs threaten vote of no confidence in the government?.

It was the whip who said they would call an election if they defeated the Government in the commons, they could have threatened the same to the ERG group too.

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Excuse me - I don't know where this obsession is of late of you inventing things I never said.

Here is a clue:

That is a statement to say that the way these Remainer Tory MPs voted lastnight, by voting against their own government, they were prepared to risk a no confidence motion. I never said they threatened, so please stop putting words in my posts, that I never said.

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My point is that the same would be true of the Brexiters. If the whip wants to to make Brexit votes a matter of confidence than rebel Brexiters would also face that choice. In the end the Government made concessions to avoid that in the case of the Brexiters.

It's also worth noting that the bill yesterday was not a confidence motion. The Government threatened to call an election but the bill yesterday would not have brought down the government, the government itself would then need to have done so.

Personally I think we need an election. This is getting unsustainable. The Government is paralyzed. The Government tried to whip up support to add amendments to kill their own policy and threatened to call an election if MPs voted to back what was the Gov's actual policy as of the weekend. :spin:

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I agree in principle that something needs to give because we are at a political impasse at the moment and it is politically depressing.

Labour Party is an absolute joke but then so is the Conservatives under it's current leadership.

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Yes, and the reason for that is May herself.

She is trying to please both sides of the Brexit result and it just won't work. She doesn't have the strength to stand up to those who oppose her within her own party.

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Which groups of those that oppose her are you referring to? :)

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As posted on previous page this morning...

8th July 2018
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eresa-May.html
10 June 2108
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/pol...-Conservatives
April 21 2018
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...s-down-customs

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As May has frequently stated we are withdrawing from the EU and her "Red Lines" for that perhaps the remainers in the party???

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Yet again, you are wrong. Confidence motion against Theresa May, not the government, so I will ask you again, when did the Brexiteer MPs threaten a No confidence motion in the Government. T h e G o v e r n m e n t, not the PM?!?!

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and he be sitting same place that Geoffrey Howe did his speech that brought down Margaret Thatcher

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Don't think Bozza has the same gravitas as Geoffrey,he's a clown, surely even the Tories wouldn't have him as leader. If I was TM I'd have a dental appointment this afternoon ;)

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she at the commons select committee