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what's the significance of that? :Oh: are you saying that NTL have added 6 new UBRs in order to be able to handle the speed increases?

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'Continuous improvement'

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If you read BBKings whole post (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=596) he was citing facts in response to comments that ntl invested little or no money on their network.

EDIT: want to see how much a single card for a UBR is.... linky

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You mean NTL buy their kit on EBay!! (Sorry - couldn't resist that)

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I haven't seen NTL's complaints figures, but I suspect a large chunk of those 600,000 users are probably quite happy with their service, and wouldn't even know about, let alone care about, NTL running their network to the wire.

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No, that's the uBR stuff that was nicked when someone raided one of the headends a few months back..... :D

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Heh that's the cheaper part of the deal, the extra fibre is naaasty cost ;)

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and there was me thinking it was the infamous

COMING SHORTLY

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to put this in perspective... how many UBRs exist within the NTL network? and how many were there say 12 months ago?

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interesting no comments to my post. I will ask again.

The low usage customers are catered for.
The 24/7 leechers are dealt with.
But what about the people who want 50-100 gig a month? and is 40 gig really appropriate for a 3mbit tier.

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IMPO it is enough if you need more then I am sure NTL will arrange to charge those by the gig they want over the 40gig.

That is what I think should happen now.

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But we won't know until the 'official' announcement, so what's the point in speculating?

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Judging from some of the messages here you would think NTL was planning to reduce speeds rather than increase them, if I was NTL reading this thread I would be thinking †œwhat an ungrateful lot of *** we have as customersâ₠¬Â�, it would make me think twice before I offered any further speed increases.



Given the choice I would have to choose reasonable capping as opposed to crap service due to congestion. If I had a few people on my loop hogging the bandwidth all the time I would be the first to complain, we all have to learn to respect other people and act accordingly otherwise the result will be anarchy which will benefit no-one.

When it was PAYG for everyone we were our own bandwidth police, only being able to afford going online evenings and weekends for relatively short periods of time. With a fixed monthly fee there has to be some policy to deter everyone from hogging the bandwidth, anyone who canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t appreciate that is living in cloud cuckoo land.

In an ideal world we would each have a 1:1 contention ratio and each driver would have the road all to themselves but until then we have to learn to live within current resources.



When my speed doubles I am not going to be downloading twice as much data as I do now, I am not going to change my on-line pattern much at all, in just the same way that I didnâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t start downloading everything in site when I moved from 512KB ADSL last month just because I could now do it 3 times faster.



For the first time in my life I will have the fastest connection available in the UK (ignoring Bulldog in Central London) and for that I have to applaud NTL, and at a price I could only have dreamed of in the past.



:hugs: ntl:

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:clap:

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Actually, having done the calculations, 40gig is quite restrictive for a 3-meg package. Infact, if the contention is 20:1, then this is slightly less than your fair share. I'm told, however, that they work on 25:1, so its probably a bit more. 45gig would be fair for 20:1, counting a 31-day month, so they ought to round that up to 50.

Though for the price, I'm not complaining :D

Prices will come down, bandwidth allowances might go up, speed might rise again in a few years time (once they work out what to do with a million ambit modems that are incapable of more than 3meg!! :Yikes: ), and some competition might happen......................... when BT work out how to make their network capable of backhauling any more data than it does now... :rolleyes:

I do, however, support a bit of flexibility, in the form of capacity-based charging. My hosting provider charge me 0.5p per megabyte over 10gig/month. That works out at 50p/gig after the initial 10. £5-£10 per extra 10gig a month? It could work :angel: