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denphone 13-11-2013 20:56
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35644900)
So does anyone still think VM were wrong to get out of content?
In my humble opinion after much considered thought it was definitely the right decision.

Chad 13-11-2013 21:06
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35644900)
So does anyone still think VM were wrong to get out of content?
As long as BT and SKY are prepared to allow Virgin access to the channels then it certainly looks like Virgin did the right thing.

colin25 14-11-2013 01:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35644902)
In my humble opinion after much considered thought it was definitely the right decision.
you mean hindsight...after bemoaning what they did at the time? :D

Who knows what is the best course, but the key is that you can move anywhere, you are only at worse tied to an 18 month contract.

denphone 14-11-2013 06:09
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35644975)
you mean hindsight...after bemoaning what they did at the time? :D

Who knows what is the best course, but the key is that you can move anywhere, you are only at worse tied to an 18 month contract.
Yes hindsight is definitely a good thing to have but Colin if we all had hindsight then you would all be millionaires and as we know none of us are.:D

colin25 14-11-2013 08:17
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35644995)
Yes hindsight is definitely a good thing to have but Colin if we all had hindsight then you would all be millionaires and as we know none of us are.:D
Don't you mean foresight?..seeing ahead?..you won't get rich seeing what has already happened :D

denphone 16-11-2013 12:40
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BT 3 BSkyB 0

http://advanced-television.com/2013/11/11/bt-3-bskyb-0/

Chad 16-11-2013 12:53
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35645814)
That's a good read, especially from a Virgin Media point of view.

"The second threat to BSkyB is in its wholesale revenues from the likes of Virgin Media. “We note that BT has highlighted increased wholesale revenue as an opportunity, suggesting that it will charge incrementally more to Virgin Media if it wants to continue to offer its customers Champions League. The question for Virgin Media is whether it will look to try and negotiate a discount with BSkyB for the loss of those rights,” says the bank’s report."

OLD BOY 16-11-2013 13:12
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I know that some will find it hard to believe that Sky will ever come to an accommodation with BT, but you have to consider the alternative. Sky won't bankrupt itself, the guys making strategic decisions can see where all this is leading.

In the end, the best arrangement will be for Sky, BT, BBC and ITV to collaborate, which will eliminate any likely competition, resulting in a lower bid and bigger profits all round.

What's wrong with that?

Competition will bring results for the consumer, but it may be a little while in coming.

Dave42 16-11-2013 13:23
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35645832)
I know that some will find it hard to believe that Sky will ever come to an accommodation with BT, but you have to consider the alternative. Sky won't bankrupt itself, the guys making strategic decisions can see where all this is leading.

In the end, the best arrangement will be for Sky, BT, BBC and ITV to collaborate, which will eliminate any likely competition, resulting in a lower bid and bigger profits all round.

What's wrong with that?

Competition will bring results for the consumer, but it may be a little while in coming.
like it does with electricity and gas prices ect you mean only ever be going up and up

tvtimes 16-11-2013 17:49
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35644601)
you got to remember sky paid over £2 billion for premier league right compared to BT £738 million so BT will have to up it over £2 billion to beat sky cant see that happening in 1 go remember sky will up bid to make sure they get most of premier league games they know they need the football
You need to remember that BT also shelled out that money before even having a channel set up or any idea of any carriage deals they could negotiate. Plus they probably wouldn't know their strategy.

They have now crossed their t's and dotted their I's and have a better idea of what's affordable and things are much less of a gamble now.

The channel is set up, the sub numbers are in and are stronger than expected if BT are to be believed.

This deal with the CL shows to me that BT are rolling out the tanks and are firmly parking them on Sky HQ's lawn. Sky now have to respond.

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Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35644617)
Bt do like splashing the cash don't they? The roman abramovich method to sports rights acquisition.
It worked for him though didn't it? Chelsea were on the verge of Bankruptcy and now look at them!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35644620)
You might be right, Dave, but honestly, I'm beginning to wonder. I think BT aim to take over in sports broadcasting. In the end, they have more money in the kitty than Sky do - Sky must have a limit beyond which it will not go.
BT will be aware that it's a long game and that they will need to make this work long term. That means bidding big at the moment and taking a hit on their profits - explaining to their share holders their long term plan.
It took Sky years to get where they are today and it will take BT years as well.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35644633)
Yes, they have a major problem with continuing their dominance over sport, and next will be movies.

Sky must now work on an alternative approach to bring in the readies.


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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35644633)
Yes, they have a major problem with continuing their dominance over sport, and next will be movies.

Sky must now work on an alternative approach to bring in the readies.
I think Sky need to focus on their bb offering; they're not far behind BT in terms of numbers now and if they invested in some better technology and hotspots to compete with BT they will see a shift.

johnathome 16-11-2013 17:56
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Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35645917)

I think Sky need to focus on their bb offering; they're not far behind BT in terms of numbers now and if they invested in some better technology and hotspots to compete with BT they will see a shift.
I think sky making inroads into BT's core business is what made them retaliate, they poked the sleeping giant too much and now it's coming back to bite them.

tvtimes 16-11-2013 18:02
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35645927)
I think sky making inroads into BT's core business is what made them retaliate, they poked the sleeping giant too much and now it's coming back to bite them.
I agree mate but Sky must keep it up. Sky have BT worried because they are encroaching on their BB numbers. Then on the other hand, BT have Sky worried because BT have now retaliated and are encroaching on Sky's main focus - sport.

Imagine if it became a role reversal lol!

denphone 19-11-2013 18:06
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BT Sport: £897m Champions League rights 'worth every penny' – and they may invest 'eye-watering sums' in Premier League.

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/ar...remier-league/

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BT Sport is ready to invest more "eye-watering sums" and already has its eyes on the next Premier League television rights, BT TV chief executive Marc Watson has warned.
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Earlier, David Kerr, managing director of British Eurosport, had referred to the next Premier League rights battle as "a seismic clash, almost a do-or-die situation."

Dave42 19-11-2013 19:17
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35646879)
BT Sport: £897m Champions League rights 'worth every penny' – and they may invest 'eye-watering sums' in Premier League.

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/ar...remier-league/
bad news for us as prices keep on going up and up and up

OLD BOY 19-11-2013 19:18
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35645838)
like it does with electricity and gas prices ect you mean only ever be going up and up
Yes, but there are two things you have to remember. Firstly, because we have the competition and regulation that we do, our bills are cheaper than for the rest of Europe, and secondly, we have that little thing called the Green Levy that the Government keeps putting up year on year. It always gets worse with Government interference.

As far as TV is concerned, the one thing we have been lacking is competition, owing to Sky's dominance, and that's why we pay so much for movies and sports.

As other big guys join in, the price will ultimately come down.

Dave42 19-11-2013 19:23
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35646920)
Yes, but there are two things you have to remember. Firstly, because we have the competition and regulation that we do, our bills are cheaper than for the rest of Europe, and secondly, we have that little thing called the Green Levy that the Government keeps putting up year on year. It always gets worse with Government interference.

As far as TV is concerned, the one thing we have been lacking is competition, owing to Sky's dominance, and that's why we pay so much for movies and sports.

As other big guys join in, the price will ultimately come down.
price will keep going only one way and it up and up not down don't kid yourself OB

martin201002 19-11-2013 19:28
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Sky to show Ashes highlights free-to-air on Pick TV http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nnel-pick.html

muppetman11 19-11-2013 19:36
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35646920)
Yes, but there are two things you have to remember. Firstly, because we have the competition and regulation that we do, our bills are cheaper than for the rest of Europe, and secondly, we have that little thing called the Green Levy that the Government keeps putting up year on year. It always gets worse with Government interference.

As far as TV is concerned, the one thing we have been lacking is competition, owing to Sky's dominance, and that's why we pay so much for movies and sports.

As other big guys join in, the price will ultimately come down.
Pay so much for movies ? Theres plenty of options , you have Lovefilm Instant at £4.99 , Netflix £5.99 , Now TV Movies £8.99 , Wuaki £4.99 , Lovefilm Instant and Postal DVD starting at £9.99 you then have many PPV options for those wanting to rent or purchase the occasional movie such as Blinkbox , Sainsburys Entertainment , Sky Store , Virgin Movies , Wuaki , itunes , Google play store etc , as for sport thats getting silly and there's only one way that pricing is going and it certainly isnt down.

johnathome 19-11-2013 19:41
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Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35646925)
Sky to show Ashes highlights free-to-air on Pick TV http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nnel-pick.html
I read that in the paper today. Sky were asking too much for the highlights, they weren't allowing then to be shown until 10pm, when the next days play was starting.

It wasn't an attractive offer was it? I wonder how much they were asking?

martin201002 19-11-2013 20:00
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35646936)
I read that in the paper today. Sky were asking too much for the highlights, they weren't allowing then to be shown until 10pm, when the next days play was starting.

It wasn't an attractive offer was it? I wonder how much they were asking?
Knowing sky, probably too much. Terrestrial channels are probably focusing their spending on Christmas television programmes and the like, there is a argument to suggest that the ashes should be on free-to-air television anyway.

smallclone 20-11-2013 10:24
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35646936)
I read that in the paper today. Sky were asking too much for the highlights, they weren't allowing then to be shown until 10pm, when the next days play was starting.

It wasn't an attractive offer was it? I wonder how much they were asking?
I find this shameful. For such a prestigious sport event to be given this lack of airtime on terrestrial tv is just criminal.

alwaysabear 20-11-2013 14:00
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Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 35647069)
I find this shameful. For such a prestigious sport event to be given this lack of airtime on terrestrial tv is just criminal.
IMO cricket shot themselves in the foot when they agreed a deal with Sky years ago. They got greedy and now the game is suffering .:erm:

denphone 21-11-2013 10:47
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BSkyB 'keen' to cut sports wholesale deal with BT.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...wholesale-deal

Mr Banana 21-11-2013 11:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647523)
BSkyB 'keen' to cut sports wholesale deal with BT.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...wholesale-deal
Funny how they have changed their stance now they have lost their monopoly on football.

Chad 21-11-2013 12:48
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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35647538)
Funny how they have changed their stance now they have lost their monopoly on football.
They haven't, this has always been SKY's stance since BT Sports launched. SKY have always been open to wholesale BT Sports and in return they'd allow BT to wholesale SKY Sports.

Dave42 21-11-2013 12:52
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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35647538)
Funny how they have changed their stance now they have lost their monopoly on football.
it was BT that refused a wholesale deal not sky everyone know the worse thing about sky is their withholding of channels

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 12:55
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35646932)
Pay so much for movies ? Theres plenty of options , you have Lovefilm Instant at £4.99 , Netflix £5.99 , Now TV Movies £8.99 , Wuaki £4.99 , Lovefilm Instant and Postal DVD starting at £9.99 you then have many PPV options for those wanting to rent or purchase the occasional movie such as Blinkbox , Sainsburys Entertainment , Sky Store , Virgin Movies , Wuaki , itunes , Google play store etc , as for sport thats getting silly and there's only one way that pricing is going and it certainly isnt down.
Well, given this is about pricing, exactly how much is the customer expected to pay to access all this on their TVs? I have no intention whatsoever of getting Blinkbox, Playstation, Sky and the like which will all cost me more!

You only have to compare what we are paying to Sky for their movies with the other options available on alternative equipment to see how much they are overcharging for Sky Movies.

You can talk about the exclusivity arrangements with the film studios that have to be paid for if you like, but the number of hours of content you get on Sky Movies is very small when compared with what you get on Netflix.

When you weigh it all up, Sky are simply raking it in at our expense. It will change with time, but it's the competition that will bring it about.

denphone 21-11-2013 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35647538)
Funny how they have changed their stance now they have lost their monopoly on football.
Maybe the bully is now learning its lessons.

muppetman11 21-11-2013 13:45
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647572)
Well, given this is about pricing, exactly how much is the customer expected to pay to access all this on their TVs? I have no intention whatsoever of getting Blinkbox, Playstation, Sky and the like which will all cost me more!

You only have to compare what we are paying to Sky for their movies with the other options available on alternative equipment to see how much they are overcharging for Sky Movies.

You can talk about the exclusivity arrangements with the film studios that have to be paid for if you like, but the number of hours of content you get on Sky Movies is very small when compared with what you get on Netflix.

When you weigh it all up, Sky are simply raking it in at our expense. It will change with time, but it's the competition that will bring it about.
I never mentioned exclusivity agreements nor how many hours each service has so not sure why you've mentioned it , my post just showed theres lots of choice for movies and at a budget to suit all , if you find Sky Movies on VM too expensive DONT pay it simple , you mention Netflix has more choice so just stick with that and save a bundle.

Mr Banana 21-11-2013 13:50
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35647566)
They haven't, this has always been SKY's stance since BT Sports launched. SKY have always been open to wholesale BT Sports and in return they'd allow BT to wholesale SKY Sports.
Thats my point Chad, prior to BT getting a piece of the football action they played hardball with them

denphone 21-11-2013 14:48
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BT plans multiscreen and OTT developments.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/12501...-developments/

vincerooney 21-11-2013 15:21
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35647662)
BT plans multiscreen and OTT developments.

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/12501...-developments/
heres hoping they can show coverage to all the champions league games via the red button. whatever people think of sky their champions league coverage is incredible.

thenry 21-11-2013 17:18
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In HD.

OLD BOY 21-11-2013 19:40
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35647609)
I never mentioned exclusivity agreements nor how many hours each service has so not sure why you've mentioned it , my post just showed theres lots of choice for movies and at a budget to suit all , if you find Sky Movies on VM too expensive DONT pay it simple , you mention Netflix has more choice so just stick with that and save a bundle.
Yeah, I know you didn't but I did because that's normally the response we get when someone says that Sky Movies is too expensive.

My point was that most people in these hard times don't have the money to buy alternative equipment and so most only watch what is available to them on terrestrial, cable or satellite.

If you need other equipment to watch these other films from different providers, that is not really competition, because they are just catering for a relatively small minority. That is how Sky have continued to get away with it.

muppetman11 21-11-2013 20:24
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35647803)
Yeah, I know you didn't but I did because that's normally the response we get when someone says that Sky Movies is too expensive.

My point was that most people in these hard times don't have the money to buy alternative equipment and so most only watch what is available to them on terrestrial, cable or satellite.

If you need other equipment to watch these other films from different providers, that is not really competition, because they are just catering for a relatively small minority. That is how Sky have continued to get away with it.
Sky Movies on Sky £16 Premium HD £5.25 total £21.25
Sky Movies on VM £19.50 Premium HD £7 total £26.50

Now TV movies pass £8.99 , Now TV box to access it £9.99 (One off) total £18.98 so basically you save right from the first month , so as I said theres cheap options out there for both services and devices.

These particular services may not be what your after however its still an option for people as is the cheaper Netflix at £5.99 or Lovefilm Instant at £4.99 so as you can see movies are available to all budgets which was my initial point.

passingbat 21-11-2013 20:47
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35647832)
Lovefilm Instant at £4.99 .
Lovefilm appear to have put their price up to the same as Netflix at £5.99, at least for new customers. Maybe existing customers retain the original £4.99?

OLD BOY 22-11-2013 12:45
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35647832)
Sky Movies on Sky £16 Premium HD £5.25 total £21.25
Sky Movies on VM £19.50 Premium HD £7 total £26.50

Now TV movies pass £8.99 , Now TV box to access it £9.99 (One off) total £18.98 so basically you save right from the first month , so as I said theres cheap options out there for both services and devices.

These particular services may not be what your after however its still an option for people as is the cheaper Netflix at £5.99 or Lovefilm Instant at £4.99 so as you can see movies are available to all budgets which was my initial point.
Thanks for clarifying your point, MM.

Dave42 23-11-2013 18:13
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glad to see the numbers on sky sports now on top instead of bottom left much better thanks for doing that VM and sky

bubblegun 24-11-2013 04:37
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I don't think BT are likely to be willing to pay the money needed to win the majority of Premiership rights at the next auction.

At the last auction they, BT, won the most that they could, and so did Sky AFAIK, as the deal was that one broadcaster could have all but one "first pick" bundles and at most all but one bundle of other matches, too.

I think the real danger for Sky is that BT focus their money on selected "first pick" bundles and/or certain other pack bundles that Sky end-up paying over the odds for those and the rest of the packages.

<I work for Sky so I'm biased obviously! but this is how I see the bidding war playing out. Sky did outbid BT last time, but next time if they (BT) focus their bids on certain packages then they could seriously damage Sky for 3 years at least>

denphone 24-11-2013 06:50
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Originally Posted by bubblegun (Post 35648682)
I don't think BT are likely to be willing to pay the money needed to win the majority of Premiership rights at the next auction.

At the last auction they, BT, won the most that they could, and so did Sky AFAIK, as the deal was that one broadcaster could have all but one "first pick" bundles and at most all but one bundle of other matches, too.

I think the real danger for Sky is that BT focus their money on selected "first pick" bundles and/or certain other pack bundles that Sky end-up paying over the odds for those and the rest of the packages.

<I work for Sky so I'm biased obviously! but this is how I see the bidding war playing out. Sky did outbid BT last time, but next time if they (BT) focus their bids on certain packages then they could seriously damage Sky for 3 years at least>
Indeed this is the scenario Sky greatly fears and they have every right to be fearful as BT Sports has the money and the staying power for the long run......

MaverickJesus 24-11-2013 08:21
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Funny how quickly the 'BT are just another Setanta' comments disappeared - its almost as if people shouldn't make wildly misinformed snap judgements.

paultrademark 24-11-2013 08:38
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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35648694)
Funny how quickly the 'BT are just another Setanta' comments disappeared - its almost as if people shouldn't make wildly misinformed snap judgements.
Yeah a few on here said that ;)

telegramsam 24-11-2013 10:12
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Glad to hear that BT aren`t just prepared to stand still and be happy with what they`ve got. The prospect of red button feature is a step in the right direction. I now see that Sky now really do have a real rival at long last. My only fear is whether we the customers will pay more for the BT channels in the not to distant future. For the moment though I`m liking what BT are doing.

andy_m 24-11-2013 10:46
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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35648694)
Funny how quickly the 'BT are just another Setanta' comments disappeared - its almost as if people shouldn't make wildly misinformed snap judgements.
Almost. Where are these comments you speak of?

Doug P 24-11-2013 13:03
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Throwing billions of customer's money about will still fail but on a grander scale....

denphone 25-11-2013 10:29
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BT may have beaten Sky on Champions League – but the game isn't over.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog

First of all they need to get his facts right in saying you can get Sky Sports on Sky for as little as £22.00 because as far as l know you must pay Sky a minimum of £43 per month in order to get Sky Sports and that is just in SD.

OLD BOY 25-11-2013 12:25
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35649072)
BT may have beaten Sky on Champions League – but the game isn't over.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog

First of all they need to get his facts right in saying you can get Sky Sports on Sky for as little as £22.00 because as far as l know you must pay Sky a minimum of £43 per month in order to get Sky Sports and that is just in SD.
I think those who think BT will not succeed in their strategy are assuming this is only about sport and broadband.

I think BT may have some more rabbits to pull from the hat in terms of its TV offering, which I think is likely to be expanded well beyond sport. Sky have done very well from TV revenues - who is to say that BT can't emulate Sky's success?

Doug P 25-11-2013 15:27
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I agree BT could succeed but making exisiting customers pay by chucking billions at sport is an awful way to do it imo.....

braysoj1 28-11-2013 14:08
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breaking news

BT Sport agrees multi-year NBA broadcast deal

http://sport.bt.com/watchnow/program...11363853884297

johnathome 28-11-2013 16:19
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Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35650277)
breaking news

BT Sport agrees multi-year NBA broadcast deal

http://sport.bt.com/watchnow/program...11363853884297

WOW! :)

well done BT

martin201002 28-11-2013 16:22
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Agreed, the more sport they get hold of the better, can watch it on tv anywhere :D

denphone 29-11-2013 18:35
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Formula 1 should join BT Sport to avoid getting left behind.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formul...mula-1-2861041

Pay-to-view sports the new trend?

http://www.tcs.cam.ac.uk/sport/00312...new-trend.html

thenry 29-11-2013 18:42
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coughAlJazeeracough ;)

andy_m 29-11-2013 19:05
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35650715)
Formula 1 should join BT Sport to avoid getting left behind.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formul...mula-1-2861041

Pay-to-view sports the new trend?

http://www.tcs.cam.ac.uk/sport/00312...new-trend.html
I think there is a cultural problem with pay per view in this country, it's become a byword (phrase) for rip off. But done properly then it really could be the way forward. It would, however, mean less funding for minority sports.

harry_hitch 29-11-2013 23:26
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35650732)
I think there is a cultural problem with pay per view in this country, it's become a byword (phrase) for rip off. But done properly then it really could be the way forward. It would, however, mean less funding for minority sports.
Yup, PPV sports could work well. I would happily pay the ECB or RFU a few quid to watch the few tests I have the opportunity to watch when not working.

I would like one sport to break away from Sky or BT and offer their own service (which has been mentioned many times before before). I.E. ECB could charge £35 a year for access to watch all tests, odi's and T20's. It would "only" take 10 million cricket fans to give the ECB £350 million a year. I do not know how much Sky give the ECB, but I would imagine (when adding the sale of highlights) they could earn money this way than they could from Sky.

It's a pipe dream, I know but I will keep dreaming it. :)

andy_m 30-11-2013 05:55
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I've had a quick Google and the Sky deal appears to be with about £260m to the ECB, and they don't have to administer subs or worry about producing TV content. I think it would be a brave sport who would go it alone and put themselves up against subscription services carrying the Premier League.

harry_hitch 01-12-2013 02:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35650874)
I've had a quick Google and the Sky deal appears to be with about £260m to the ECB, and they don't have to administer subs or worry about producing TV content. I think it would be a brave sport who would go it alone and put themselves up against subscription services carrying the Premier League.
Ah, can't say I thought about TV production. However, sure the production costs would be covered in the price I would, in theory, pay?

I don't really care for football these days. Many millions don't either. My local club and England pique my interest now and again, but if I had Sky Sports for the cricket only, I would happily, and have happily, dropped Sky Sports. I would happily pay the governing body directly, rather than pay over the odds to help a third party rip people off.

I would happily pay similar sums directly to the RFU too.

If govern bodies are scared of doing this, Sky and BT should launch a PL service, and charge massively over the top for it. They could then let real sports fans enjoy the vast amounts of "boring" sports for a fairer price.

#pipedreamsagain.

thenry 01-12-2013 13:30
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Michael Owen is still unbearable to listen to.

nashmills 01-12-2013 19:45
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35651183)
Michael Owen is still unbearable to listen to.
Not as bad as Jamie Carragher though.

thenry 01-12-2013 19:49
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both suck.

denphone 01-12-2013 20:02
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35651372)
both suck.
l hate to say it but Gary Neville is one of the best.:)

thenry 01-12-2013 20:09
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ye hes slotted right in for Sky. Ed too.

denphone 01-12-2013 20:10
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35651382)
ye hes slotted right in for Sky. Ed too.
BT Sport need to get a few more big hitters instead of having a reincarnation of The Spice Boys.

thenry 01-12-2013 20:12
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:LOL: good one. yup. may be with CL shifting over they can nab heads from Sky, ITV whatever. the way its going they may as well put Keys and Gray in.

muppetman11 07-12-2013 15:25
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Just watched BT Sport after the United game and my god what an awful watch it was with David Ginola , Owen Hargreaves and Jake Humphrey possibly the worst post match analasys I've ever seen.

thenry 07-12-2013 15:27
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BT Sports - Killing Live Sport

denphone 07-12-2013 15:34
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35653100)
Just watched BT Sport after the United game and my god what an awful watch it was with David Ginola , Owen Hargreaves and Jake Humphrey possibly the worst post match analasys I've ever seen.
Any suggestions on who should replace them as BT Sports need some big hitters instead of the idiots they currently have.

Chad 07-12-2013 15:41
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35653104)
Any suggestions on who should replace them as BT Sports need some big hitters instead of the idiots they currently have.
So many pundits out there. The guys on SKY will be pretty much untouchable. In terms of realistic targets I'd go with Lee Dixon from ITV, Gordon Strachan in between his Scotland commitments and a cheeky approach towards Alan Hansen when he quits the BBC next summer. 3 guys with knowledge, integrity, respected opinions and a little humour at times.

johnathome 07-12-2013 16:42
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Hansen is so dour though, he's acting as if he's just fed up with it all.

Chad 07-12-2013 16:47
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35653122)
Hansen is so dour though, he's acting as if he's just fed up with it all.
Maybe it's not an act. The guy has had an incredibly long run as a pundit on the BBC. Maybe a nice break, better salary and a lighter working schedule would cheer him up a bit.

thenry 07-12-2013 16:55
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Seeing Arsenal top of the league wont cheer him up :p:

alwaysabear 07-12-2013 22:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35653107)
So many pundits out there. The guys on SKY will be pretty much untouchable. In terms of realistic targets I'd go with Lee Dixon from ITV, Gordon Strachan in between his Scotland commitments and a cheeky approach towards Alan Hansen when he quits the BBC next summer. 3 guys with knowledge, integrity, respected opinions and a little humour at times.
I think they would make a big difference to the BT pundit team. As for Humphrey he is aweful imo.

johnasimmons 08-12-2013 08:24
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35653125)
Seeing Arsenal top of the league wont cheer him up :p:

it cheers me up though! :beer::beer:

andy_m 08-12-2013 09:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35653107)
So many pundits out there. The guys on SKY will be pretty much untouchable. In terms of realistic targets I'd go with Lee Dixon from ITV, Gordon Strachan in between his Scotland commitments and a cheeky approach towards Alan Hansen when he quits the BBC next summer. 3 guys with knowledge, integrity, respected opinions and a little humour at times.
Hansen is a lazy pundit, trotting out cliche after cliche and being paid a fortune to do so. The BBC lost Dixon because of that, and I'd put Dixon up there as possibly the best available right now. Strachan I like also.

That said, I didn't watch any of the after match analysis on BT, but I'm not sure there are many better live broadcasters than Jake Humphreys at the moment, imo. Were they hampered by not being in the studio?

denphone 08-12-2013 09:41
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But the trouble with Humphreys is that he is a bit like Childs in that in presenting live football they are both like ducks out of water.

harry_hitch 08-12-2013 11:02
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35653325)
But the trouble with Humphreys is that he is a bit like Childs in that in presenting live football they are both like ducks out of water.
Never mind about the pundits today peeps, the mighty Cambridge United are on BT today. What more entertainment could you lucky people need?....:erm::D

andy_m 08-12-2013 11:24
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35653325)
But the trouble with Humphreys is that he is a bit like Childs in that in presenting live football they are both like ducks out of water.
I like Childs as well-the night the England match was called off due to rain I thought he was excellent. However, when I first read your post I thought you said that Humphreys is like a child, and I was going to reply that I agree, but I don't see a problem with that. A slightly hyper child, who likes football and was genuinely excited to be at Old Trafford yesterday, I find Sky too corporate at times. Football should make you sparkle a bit like when you were a kid.

The problem is not the presenters, but the so called experts. Savage having to eat humble pie over Chamakh on last night's MOTD was sweet, I have to say.

denphone 08-12-2013 11:26
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35653345)
Never mind about the pundits today peeps, the mighty Cambridge United are on BT today. What more entertainment could you lucky people need?....:erm::D
How far is Newmarket racecourse from there?.;):D

muppetman11 08-12-2013 11:55
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35653349)
I like Childs as well-the night the England match was called off due to rain I thought he was excellent. However, when I first read your post I thought you said that Humphreys is like a child, and I was going to reply that I agree, but I don't see a problem with that. A slightly hyper child, who likes football and was genuinely excited to be at Old Trafford yesterday, I find Sky too corporate at times. Football should make you sparkle a bit like when you were a kid.

The problem is not the presenters, but the so called experts. Savage having to eat humble pie over Chamakh on last night's MOTD was sweet, I have to say.
Personal opinion here but I have to disagree about Humphrey he's well out of his depth with Football , yesterdays post match analasys was a shocker however I will say he wasn't helped by Ginola and Hargreaves who are terrible. BT capturing champions league could be a bad thing if were stuck with these clowns.

andy_m 08-12-2013 12:06
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35653355)
Personal opinion here but I have to disagree about Humphrey he's well out of his depth with Football , yesterdays post match analasys was a shocker however I will say he wasn't helped by Ginola and Hargreaves who are terrible. BT capturing champions league could be a bad thing if were stuck with these clowns.
In fairness I didn't see it but surely the analysis is for Ginola etc, not Humphreys. They're two different roles. What was so bad about it?

vincerooney 08-12-2013 12:25
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Agreed with the thoughts on BT sport yesterday. Why were they outside the studio anyway? Ginola though I loved him as a player was pretty bad. Contradicting himself. Owen Hargreaves was monotone throughout.

I wonder do BT actually test these pundits out or literally just hire them on name value?? If there were auditions whoever hired them needs to be sacked. If they didn't have auditions then now is the time to have them....

denphone 08-12-2013 12:35
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At the moment and it hurts me :bigcry: to say this is that Sky Sports coverage and presenters are way ahead of the pack :Yes::clap:

harry_hitch 08-12-2013 13:02
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35653350)
How far is Newmarket racecourse from there?.;):D
:D. I was not aware of any other sporting options reasonably local to me Den, why would I need to be?;)

In case you were being serious its about a 30-45 minute drive.

mhatter67 08-12-2013 13:03
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I still like Ian Darke football commentary though on BT sports!

denphone 08-12-2013 13:09
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35653377)
:D. I was not aware of any other sporting options reasonably local to me Den, why would I need to be?;)

In case you were being serious its about a 30-45 minute drive.
It was tongue in cheek Harry :).

Sorry about your beloved losing currently against Sheffield United. :(

andy_m 08-12-2013 13:40
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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35653379)
I still like Ian Darke football commentary though on BT sports!
I like it when they hang around the tunnel to get the team announcement, and then Ian Darke offers immediate commentary on team changes etc. That's really difficult to do and he's very good at it. He really prepares well for games.

I find Michael Owen a bit bland, because his voice is quite boring. But, he was a top top player (!), and his opinions are interesting. And what's more he doesn't shy away from voicing them. Last week he said he played a year with Soldado at Madrid and doesn't rate him. No "the system doesn't suit him" or "AVB isn't getting the best out of him" but simply "I was once a world class striker, I played for some of the best teams in the world, I trained every day with this guy for a year and he really isn't all that". You just can't beat the inside track like that. Hansen, as good as he was, is twenty years out of the game.

Halsey was a failed experiment, I'm hoping his absence yesterday means they've given up on it, but I have to give them top marks for trying.

harry_hitch 08-12-2013 13:49
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35653381)
It was tongue in cheek Harry :).

Sorry about your beloved losing currently against Sheffield United. :(
Cheers Den.

We have not disgraced ourselves so far. They have vastly larger sums of money than us, and, ultimately they are the best part of two leagues above us. We have given them some problems today, and it has taken a couple of decent goals for them to have the lead.

The second goal appears to have finished us off, but the scoreline is pretty fair I guess.

I just hope it stays at 2-0, anymore would be unfair.

andy_m 08-12-2013 13:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35653362)
Agreed with the thoughts on BT sport yesterday. Why were they outside the studio anyway? Ginola though I loved him as a player was pretty bad. Contradicting himself. Owen Hargreaves was monotone throughout.

I wonder do BT actually test these pundits out or literally just hire them on name value?? If there were auditions whoever hired them needs to be sacked. If they didn't have auditions then now is the time to have them....
Why not? Love them or hate them Man Utd are one of the biggest clubs in the world with a proud history. They are also one of the biggest examples of commercialised football. They are at once everything that is good and everything that is bad about the modern game. I thought the bit where Humphreys walked past the busy shirt printing concession stand and then stood by the statue of the holy trinity whilst noting that he was in the gaze of Matt Busby was fantastic. And I really don't believe any of the other main presenters have the child like misty eyed awe of what's happening around them to have pulled it off. Honestly, for me football is still the magical experience it was when I first went to a match and for me, those few moments were magical. I don't think I really care too much if they can't tell me what I've just watched, because I know that already, I've just sat through it. But if you can find a way to come close to giving me the feeling you get when you walk up the stairs and get your first glimpse of the pitch and then the stadium opens up in front of you but on my telly then as far as I'm concerned you're on a winner.

muppetman11 08-12-2013 19:23
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BT Sport and BSkyB in pole position for rights to electric racing series

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ng-series.html

thenry 08-12-2013 19:46
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sweet. BT dont kill this!

andy_m 08-12-2013 20:59
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A few comments to bump up the price BBC or ITV end up paying. I'm looking forward to this, but it'll die if it starts on pay TV.

Chad 08-12-2013 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35653476)
BT Sport and BSkyB in pole position for rights to electric racing series

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ng-series.html
Virgin have a car in the series

http://www.virgin.com/sites/default/...racing_car.jpg

denphone 13-12-2013 15:36
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BT apologises for 'poor service' at sports channel launch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25366097

Arthurgray50@blu 13-12-2013 22:21
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To be honest, l don't watch BT Sport at all unless Spurs are playing. I think the total presentation of there sport is extremely poor - compared to Sky.

There is no thought that goes into the production o the channel. To me they should totally relaunch the channel, and get rid of some of the presenters - especially Micheal Owen. Total rubbish.

alwaysabear 14-12-2013 09:20
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I have to say I find the mix of sports on BT pretty poor and I only watch very occasionaly. I am gratful that ESPN is still available as an American sports fan.

andy_m 14-12-2013 12:57
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No Halsey again so hopefully that's the end of that. The number is back though.

denphone 14-12-2013 13:03
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Well you can't have everything your own way Andy.:D

andy_m 14-12-2013 13:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35654841)
Well you can't have everything your own way Andy.:D
I know, sigh! :(

I wouldn't mind but if you play it from my shows it's still live and there's no number. I just don't see the point when there is such an obvious workaround.

JustaBloke 14-12-2013 14:01
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No 5.1 soundtrack today, only PCM I notice, wonder why?

Lostlam 14-12-2013 18:43
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When did BT Sports start showing your box number during matches?


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