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muppetman11 17-08-2019 15:23
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006314)
Yes, some of them are, such as The Rook, which is the latest drama to screen on this channel. Actually, when I compare the content of the Virgin Media UHD channel with the current output of Sky Atlantic, the Virgin channel is far better, even though it is a primetime only channel. No commercials on it, either.

Not everyone wants to subscribe to Netflix and Prime, and therefore dramas from those sources, such as Bloodline, Start Up and House of Cards are still useful to have, covered by the pay tv cable subscription.
The point I'm making is Sky could just as easily negotiate with the rights holders of the shows (non exclusive) on there direct and add to its On Demand service.

Sky currently seem to be letting channels go not adding them.

SonicMaster 17-08-2019 16:48
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006314)
Yes, some of them are, such as The Rook, which is the latest drama to screen on this channel. Actually, when I compare the content of the Virgin Media UHD channel with the current output of Sky Atlantic, the Virgin channel is far better, even though it is a primetime only channel. No commercials on it, either.

Not everyone wants to subscribe to Netflix and Prime, and therefore dramas from those sources, such as Bloodline, Start Up and House of Cards are still useful to have, covered by the pay tv cable subscription.
It's an interesting point, with Sky Atlantic remaining an exclusive to Sky customers and Virgin TV Ultra HD the equivalent for Virgin Media customers.

The Rook and The Feed are the first exclusive content on Virgin TV Ultra HD, but as you say the Netflix shows have value for non Netflix subscribers.

Meanwhile, since the end of Game of Thones the ratings on Sky Atlantic have taken a complete nosedive...

May 0.82% > June 0.31% > July 0.17%

It's a shame that Virgin TV Ultra HD isn't available to all Virgin Media customers, not just the top tier ones, as it massively limits its potential audience, although I fully understand they are also trying to use it to get people upgrading.

Legendkiller2k 17-08-2019 17:20
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36006314)
Yes, some of them are, such as The Rook, which is the latest drama to screen on this channel. Actually, when I compare the content of the Virgin Media UHD channel with the current output of Sky Atlantic, the Virgin channel is far better, even though it is a primetime only channel. No commercials on it, either.

Not everyone wants to subscribe to Netflix and Prime, and therefore dramas from those sources, such as Bloodline, Start Up and House of Cards are still useful to have, covered by the pay tv cable subscription.
Actually The Rook is not exclusive to VM it is part of Starz play which is also part of Amazon prime addon channels.
VMs UHD channel is indeed a welcome addition but it is shows that can be found on other services so far from exclusive i'm afraid.
If they wanted SKY and BT could make a offer to carry Starz play too, it is not a exclusive VM contract.

ozsat 17-08-2019 17:56
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I can't find it in the Starzplay section on UK Amazon. It is in other countries.
The press releases imply the VM will show it before being available on Starzplay UK.

SonicMaster 17-08-2019 18:21
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36006332)
Actually The Rook is not exclusive to VM it is part of Starz play which is also part of Amazon prime addon channels.
VMs UHD channel is indeed a welcome addition but it is shows that can be found on other services so far from exclusive i'm afraid.
If they wanted SKY and BT could make a offer to carry Starz play too, it is not a exclusive VM contract.
You're wrong there. The Rook is currently exclusive to VM in the UK, but on StarzPlay in other countries. The Rook is actually branded a 'Virgin Media Original' in the UK, just as The Feed is, which will be shown on Amazon Prime Video in other countries.

batchain 17-08-2019 18:38
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36006332)
Actually The Rook is not exclusive to VM it is part of Starz play which is also part of Amazon prime addon channels.
VMs UHD channel is indeed a welcome addition but it is shows that can be found on other services so far from exclusive i'm afraid.
If they wanted SKY and BT could make a offer to carry Starz play too, it is not a exclusive VM contract.
https://www.libertyglobal.com/premie...ries-the-rook/

The new supernatural thriller, “The Rook”, co-produced by Liberty Global and Lionsgate, will premiere in Europe and the United States on June 30th.

The series, starring Emma Greenwell, Joely Richardson and Olivia Munn, will be shown exclusively to customers of Liberty Global’s European operations in the UK (Virgin Media), The Netherlands (Vodafone Ziggo), Belgium (Telenet) and Switzerland (UPC Switzerland), as well as to customers in some of Liberty Latin America’s markets in Latin America and the Caribbean.

It will also be available on Starz in the US and Canada, and on the STARZPLAY platform in Germany and Spain. Lionsgate holds worldwide rights to “The Rook” and is actively licensing the series to international buyers.

Legendkiller2k 17-08-2019 18:43
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36006351)
You're wrong there. The Rook is currently exclusive to VM in the UK, but on StarzPlay in other countries. The Rook is actually branded a 'Virgin Media Original' in the UK, just as The Feed is, which will be shown on Amazon Prime Video in other countries.
Yes my apologies to OB, i use starz play usa.
That'll teach me to jump before i look lol.

OLD BOY 17-08-2019 20:03
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36006315)
True, I just wondered if Sky would want to beef up their UHD lineup in return for letting VM have their UHD content.
I think that would be a good thing to do in exchange for Sky Atlantic and the back catalogue on demand.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36006317)
The point I'm making is Sky could just as easily negotiate with the rights holders of the shows (non exclusive) on there direct and add to its On Demand service.

Sky currently seem to be letting channels go not adding them.
They could, I guess, but they haven't done so.

---------- Post added at 20:01 ---------- Previous post was at 19:59 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36006332)
Actually The Rook is not exclusive to VM it is part of Starz play which is also part of Amazon prime addon channels.
VMs UHD channel is indeed a welcome addition but it is shows that can be found on other services so far from exclusive i'm afraid.
If they wanted SKY and BT could make a offer to carry Starz play too, it is not a exclusive VM contract.
I haven't double-checked this, but I thought I had read that The Rook was exclusive to VM.

Happy to be corrected, though.

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36006354)
Yes my apologies to OB, i use starz play usa.
That'll teach me to jump before i look lol.
Ah, thanks, that explains it!

jfman 17-08-2019 21:05
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Ah the Sky Atlantic dream lives on.

The easiest way for Sky to beef up their UHD content is to just buy some.

denphone 17-08-2019 21:06
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36006375)
Ah the Sky Atlantic dream lives on.

The easiest way for Sky to beef up their UHD content is to just buy some.
Someone has had that dream for over 8 years now.;)

cheekyangus 17-08-2019 23:50
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36006330)
It's an interesting point, with Sky Atlantic remaining an exclusive to Sky customers and Virgin TV Ultra HD the equivalent for Virgin Media customers.

The Rook and The Feed are the first exclusive content on Virgin TV Ultra HD, but as you say the Netflix shows have value for non Netflix subscribers.

Meanwhile, since the end of Game of Thones the ratings on Sky Atlantic have taken a complete nosedive...

May 0.82% > June 0.31% > July 0.17%

It's a shame that Virgin TV Ultra HD isn't available to all Virgin Media customers, not just the top tier ones, as it massively limits its potential audience, although I fully understand they are also trying to use it to get people upgrading.
Youch! That's quite a ratings drop.

I kinda agree with you regarding the VM Ultra HD channel not being for all customers, however there's less and less in the Maxit tier, they need something there to have enough customers on it to make the numbers work for the BT deal, there needs to be something for those that don't want BT Sport in order for there to be enough of them to subsidise it for those that do. Currently, as I understand it, the only exclusives to Maxit (i.e. not in Personal Picks add-on packs) are basically BT Sport, a few HD versions of SD channels, Boxsets and Ultra HD channels.

denphone 19-08-2019 14:54
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
He-Man: Clerks director Kevin Smith to revive 80s series for Netflix.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/49392859


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By the power of Grayskull! Clerks filmmaker Kevin Smith is teaming up with Netflix to revive the He-Man and Masters of the Universe series.
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The new series, Masters of the Universe: Revelation, will apparently pick up where the original animated series left off and will use Japanese anime-style animation.

muppetman11 19-08-2019 16:45
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36006575)
He-Man: Clerks director Kevin Smith to revive 80s series for Netflix.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/49392859
Can't wait for that :D

denphone 19-08-2019 16:50
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36006587)
Can't wait for that :D
Seeing as you were probably young enough to watch the original l expect you will look forward to it with keen interest.;):D

muppetman11 20-08-2019 16:15
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
This is a great article and makes some very valid points.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercs...y-1-more-svod/


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