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Pierre 09-01-2019 12:47
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35978493)
The fact of the matter is that the only electoral party offering a no-deal Brexit - UKIP - was rebuffed by the British electorate at the last election. If the electorate had wanted a no-deal Brexit, they had their chance to elect a Government that would deliver it, They didn't. Those MPs are therefore not going against the will of the people and are not treacherous.
As thin arguments go, they don't come any thinner than that!

jfman 09-01-2019 13:13
Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35978596)
As thin arguments go, they don't come any thinner than that!
Thin, but enough for our two big parties to help them sleep at night when they euthanise Brexit.

Mick 09-01-2019 13:32
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35978597)
Thin, but enough for our two big parties to help them sleep at night when they euthanise Brexit.
Talking of sleeping as that is purely you dreaming again.... :rolleyes:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35978594)
That’s an ideal solution for Parliament to be honest.
So really, you advocate that you want the country to become a dictatorship, ok, got it. :rolleyes:

pip08456 09-01-2019 13:37
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35978584)
It will never happen pip, they expect us to sit there and smile when our democracy is destroyed for their own selfish reasons to stay in a declining corrupted EU and then expect us to cross a bridge and make amends, not going to happen at all.
I know that Mick but as he is late to the party I just thought I'd answer his question.:D

Damien 09-01-2019 13:42
Re: Brexit
 
BTW Bercow seems to have declared himself Lord Emperor of the British Constitution in Parliament.

papa smurf 09-01-2019 13:48
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35978604)
BTW Bercow seems to have declared himself Lord Emperor of the British Constitution in Parliament.
Yes I've been watching in astonishment.

Dave42 09-01-2019 14:27
Re: Brexit
 
Greive's amendment passes by 308 to 297 majority 11

Damien 09-01-2019 14:33
Re: Brexit
 
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.

papa smurf 09-01-2019 14:40
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35978608)
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.
That should keep Anna sourbelly happy.

djfunkdup 09-01-2019 15:16
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35978609)
That should keep Anna sourbelly happy.
ROFL :D:D

denphone 09-01-2019 16:14
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35978606)
Greive's amendment passes by 308 to 297 majority 11
Theresa May has seen 12 defeats in the Commons since the 2017 election - more than Thatcher and Blair ever lost combined..

Chris 09-01-2019 16:21
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35978612)
Theresa May has seen 12 defeats in the Commons since the 2017 election - more than Thatcher and Blair ever lost combined..
Neither of them ever had a minority in Parliament, or anything remotely close to one.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35978608)
Doesn't really matter. She has to come back with a plan. The plan can be to go down the pub and get wasted so long as she 'presents it to the house'.
Indeed ... the Mogg pointed out this afternoon, all she has to do to satisfy the resolution is to table something. There doesn’t even have to be a vote on it. The question really is how bold dare she be? Will she take it as literally as she can and weather the howling, or will she cave in?

denphone 09-01-2019 16:28
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35978613)
Neither of them ever had a minority in Parliament, or anything remotely close to one.
Indeed but she only has herself to blame for being in such a weak position don't you agree? as if ever we needed a strong leader with a decent working majority that time would have been now.

Hugh 09-01-2019 16:44
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35978592)
Don't give up on your rights just because society is blighted by a cancer, the solution is cut out the cancer and destroy all the affected cells that are eating away at democracy.
And how would you propose that is done?

Damien 09-01-2019 16:59
Re: Brexit
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35978613)
Indeed ... the Mogg pointed out this afternoon, all she has to do to satisfy the resolution is to table something. There doesn’t even have to be a vote on it. The question really is how bold dare she be? Will she take it as literally as she can and weather the howling, or will she cave in?
She'll just say the plan is to seek further reassurances and changes around the backstop or something. She'll give some level of effort and respect to the motion, no point antagonising them for the sake of it as that can obviously backfire badly.


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