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Chris 11-08-2019 16:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005754)
What exactly has changed? My goalposts are in exactly the same position as they have always been.

No they are not, as you well know. Not for the first time, I feel compelled to remind you what you said the first time you brought this subject up, early in 2015:

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35755307)
Well, I would say that the situation I have described is better because you don't have to be a slave to the decisions of the programme schedulers - you can see the programme whenever you want to - and you don't have to put up with all those advertisements.

I appreciate that there are things that need to be sorted out first, such as giving everyone access to broadband at an appropriate speed, but I do think that this is about 10 years + away. I'm sure it will come, though.

Post 63, in this thread: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33699901

“10+ years” on from 2015 (ie sometime after 2025) is a freaking great big difference to around 2035, as you’ve been postulating more recently.

I know you’ll never admit it but the arguments presented here, and the realities in the TV marketplace, have forced you to shift your goalposts significantly. Which is no shame, by the way, it’s a perfectly reasonable outcome of any discussion.

Mad Max 11-08-2019 16:59

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So, when do you think significant changes will arrive, Chris?

OLD BOY 11-08-2019 19:23

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36005757)
No they are not, as you well know. Not for the first time, I feel compelled to remind you what you said the first time you brought this subject up, early in 2015:



Post 63, in this thread: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33699901

“10+ years” on from 2015 (ie sometime after 2025) is a freaking great big difference to around 2035, as you’ve been postulating more recently.

I know you’ll never admit it but the arguments presented here, and the realities in the TV marketplace, have forced you to shift your goalposts significantly. Which is no shame, by the way, it’s a perfectly reasonable outcome of any discussion.

Ah, is that the source of the confusion? What I was referring to was access to broadband at an appropriate speed. I did say that very clearly in the quote.

I have always said that I believe that scheduled channels will be no more by 2035. The evidence of that is there on my past posts.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005741)
And the outcome won't fit your very narrow narrative as it has quite clearly failed to do in these last 10 years but there is nothing like moving the goalposts when it suits your convenient agenda.

Ok, then, Den, indulge me. What exactly did I say would happen in those 10 years that has not happened?

Sky Atlantic is the only forecast that didn't come about that I can think of, old chap.

denphone 11-08-2019 19:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005775)

Ok, then, Den, indulge me. What exactly did I say would happen in those 10 years that has not happened?

Sky Atlantic is the only forecast that didn't come about that I can think of, old chap.

The Premier League TV rights you predicted several times would be bought by one of the big streaming companies , Well that has certainly not happened as anybody can see.

You also predicted the demise of Linear TV but alas that prediction seems to be akin to changing the goalposts when it suits your convenient narrow agenda.

Then you yourself have predicted that you would abandon being a Pay TV customer to switching totally to subscribing to streaming subscriptions but alas that seems to have tanked lately as its obvious that someone else is wearing the trousers in your household.;)

jfman 11-08-2019 19:44

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Indeed, as far as I can tell there’s never been more linear channels on Virgin than there are today. Now if we follow that obvious direction of travel ;)

Mad Max 11-08-2019 20:00

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005780)
Indeed, as far as I can tell there’s never been more linear channels on Virgin than there are today. Now if we follow that obvious direction of travel ;)


Really? Do you know what these channels are? Thx.

jfman 11-08-2019 20:03

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36005786)
Really? Do you know what these channels are? Thx.

I’m just going by the headline figures on their website and the total channels referred to on the box.

I don’t watch much TV - I couldn’t name every series on Netflix or Amazon Prime either. :)

denphone 11-08-2019 20:03

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36005786)
Really? Do you know what these channels are? Thx.

There is a nice list for you to look at here MM.;)

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-channel-guide

jfman 11-08-2019 20:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005790)
There is a nice list for you to look at here MM.;)

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-channel-guide

My eyes are bleeding at the diverse range of content on there. ;)

SnoopZ 11-08-2019 20:09

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To be fair most of it is bollocks and passed over when channel flicking.

vincerooney 11-08-2019 20:12

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005777)
The Premier League TV rights you predicted several times would be bought by one of the big streaming companies , Well that has certainly not happened as anybody can see.

You also predicted the demise of Linear TV but alas that prediction seems to be akin to changing the goalposts when it suits your convenient narrow agenda.

Then you yourself have predicted that you would abandon being a Pay TV customer to switching totally to subscribing to streaming subscriptions but alas that seems to have tanked lately as its obvious that someone else is wearing the trousers in your household.;)

Hate to play devils advocate Den but technically Amazon have got some EPL rights now even though it isnt much...

jfman 11-08-2019 20:13

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But that’s the thing, it’s financially viable to transmit hundreds of channels of all kinds of bollocks 24/7. Probably most of it has a tiny number of viewers. That’ll continue to be the case and why linear services longer than many expect.

Raider999 11-08-2019 20:15

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36005793)
To be fair most of it is bollocks and passed over when channel flicking.

I imagine a lot of the content shown by streamers is either bollocks or repeats

denphone 11-08-2019 20:18

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36005794)
Hate to play devils advocate Den but technically Amazon have got some EPL rights now even though it isnt much...

Thats the ones they snapped up for next to nothing as no one else wanted that package.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36005799)
I imagine a lot of the content shown by streamers is either bollocks or repeats

This is a fair bit of crap on all of them as people subscribe generally on the basis that there are a few very good series worth paying for.

jfman 11-08-2019 20:20

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36005799)
I imagine a lot of the content shown by streamers is either bollocks or repeats

It’s just telly by a different delivery method.

A small amount of excellent stuff, a lot of old stuff.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36005800)
This is a fair bit of crap on all of them as people subscribe generally on the basis that there are a few very good series worth paying for.

As with all pay-tv.


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