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We are already paying a price for ad free services. If streamers start to include commercials, the most likely effect will be to reduce or eliminate existing subscription rates.

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Will they? If they are doing so for Premiership football it’s eleven months till the next fixture. I’d say it’s speculative to say many will retain the service. Amazon Prime is already a popular product for those who want fast/free delivery anyway.

Of course they’re cautious it’s a huge sum of money and a huge risk without guaranteed profits at the other end.

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Actually young man l certainly don't have a business degree but l do have GCSE's in English , maths , geography and history.;)

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That is true, but if Amazon acquired Premiership rights from Sky/BT, that little weeze would be well and truly scuppered as those slippery customers won't be able to watch matches for the remainder of the season.

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He can work the Internet it’s not rocket science. Another way to experience life without adverts is to watch a BBC programme.

You could just self select into streaming now?

Ah right Mrs Old Boy won’t let you. :)

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Ifs , buts and maybes but its been ifs , buts and maybes for many a year now...

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Oh, that one again. Look if Sky and BT can make money out of it, then so can Amazon. Your argument ignores this reality.

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True, but we come back to the 7 billion dollar question of how they make that work.

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Strange that he has such a great inertia to make the full switch to streaming as he has said it for many a year now.;)

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And your thought process ignores the realities of why Amazon such a big streaming company has not blown Sky and BT out of the water long before now.

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That the all mighty Amazon with billions at their disposal didn’t make a single meaningful bid despite the value of the rights dropping last time round.

You seem to ignore the point of the rights auction. If Sky/BT can do it anyone can appears to be your attitude. There comes a point where someone thinks they can and everyone else thinks it’s not worth the risk - the winning bid. The Sky/BT bids last time.

That’s the cold, hard, reality Old Boy.

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I subscribe to Netflix so don't really have any kind of a beef , that said I wouldn't be buying any shares in it anytime soon for the reasons stated.

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The cold, hard reality is that Amazon is testing the waters. They will want to know if they can introduce a streaming service that is as good or better than conventional broadcasting. They will want to see how many actually watch the matches they have acquired over the Christmas period. I do believe they are serious about this. Only this week, they have introduced a new series 'Back of the Net' that each week will look back at the last weekend's Premiership action, hosted by Peter Crouch. Also on Amazon is a six-part series 'Take Us Home, Leeds United' and another weekly series called 'Inside Borussia Dortmund' which goes behind the scenes of the top German football club during Bundesliga's 2018-19 season. Why the sudden interest in football documentaries, I wonder? Answers on a postcard please....

As for your 'anyone can do it' jibe, it is pretty obvious that any company wanting to bid for the Premiership rights needs big trouser pockets. Amazon's are way bigger the Sky's and BT's, so I really don't understand this mental block of yours which compels you to continue denying that this could happen. It could, and I think that is obvious to most people. There is no barrier to prevent it, apart from your own dark imagination.

Let's agree to disagree. I can't bear to keep going over these same old arguments. I am never going to convince you, and you are certainly not going to convince me. Only a few short years before we see the truth of the matter.

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You really like to put words into other people mouths don't you! :rolleyes:

I have never said anything of the sort it was just suggested he could try a free trial seeing has he has never tried a streaming service before, that was it.

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That reality is neither particularly cold, nor particularly hard. They've been offered rights at a knockdown price where neither Sky or BT were exercised enough to meet the reserve price in the first round or come back in at round two.

So many questions as to the viability of the high cost, high risk business model. Glad to have you on board.

There's a massive gulf between low cost football documentaries and high value football rights. If they want the Bundesliga and the Premiership that's even greater cost (and risk!)

They need a viable business model!

And what changes between now and then?

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Den, we've been over and over this. I do subscribe to streaming services and a lot of my viewing comes from there. However, at the present moment, there are also some good programmes scattered amongst the junk that I want to see. So it is too early at this stage to make any decisions to ditch the scheduled channels. 2035 is still 15 years away - you need to pace yourself. A lot will happen between now and then.

While true to say that Amazon hasn't 'blown Sky out of the water' as you put it on football rights, the fact is that they have chosen not to do so up until now. There are many reasons for that, including the technical difficulties with streaming such as latency and broadband coverage, but as these difficulties get resolved, the idea becomes more attractive.

The fact that they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they never will, that is a really pathetic argument. Everything has to start somewhere.