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Sirius 21-10-2024 17:03

Re: Smart Meters
 
So my Smets 1 meter for Electricity which is 5 or 6 years old now and was one of the very original smart meters has been having issues since the 10th of this month, It has been giving random reads. I have just spoken to Octopus who have arranged for new Smets 2 meters to be installed on the 2nd of November. Does anyone no the difference between Smets 1 and Smets 2.

My meters have been rock solid up till now. My gas is still reading fine its just the electric meter.

SnoopZ 21-10-2024 18:11

Re: Smart Meters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36184631)
So my Smets 1 meter for Electricity which is 5 or 6 years old now and was one of the very original smart meters has been having issues since the 10th of this month, It has been giving random reads. I have just spoken to Octopus who have arranged for new Smets 2 meters to be installed on the 2nd of November. Does anyone no the difference between Smets 1 and Smets 2.

My meters have been rock solid up till now. My gas is still reading fine its just the electric meter.

https://www.simplyswitch.com/how-do-...new%20supplier.

The main difference is smets1 uses mobile network to send data to supply while smets2 uses DDC.

Sirius 21-10-2024 20:00

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36184637)
https://www.simplyswitch.com/how-do-...new%20supplier.

The main difference is smets1 uses mobile network to send data to supply while smets2 uses DDC.

Thanks :tu:

Hom3r 21-10-2024 20:33

Re: Smart Meters
 
Is there any kit I can buy to see my usage (I don't want a supplier Smart Meter, yet)

Mr K 21-10-2024 21:12

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36184641)
Is there any kit I can buy to see my usage (I don't want a supplier Smart Meter, yet)

Eon used to do a bit of kit, only available 2nd hand now. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196446496...oaAlhiEALw_wcB

Paul 22-10-2024 05:26

Re: Smart Meters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36184637)
The main difference is smets1 uses mobile network to send data to supply while smets2 uses DDC.

DCC :)

Smets1 meters are being upgraded to use the DCC Network as well.

Taf 23-10-2024 10:34

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36184641)
Is there any kit I can buy to see my usage (I don't want a supplier Smart Meter, yet)

Eyeballs Mk1. I have taken weekly readings since 1987, and they still work.

Meanwhile, scare tactics are still being used to get people to accept smart meters.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...e%2Findex.html

thenry 23-10-2024 11:39

Re: Smart Meters
 
Does somebody, a meter reader not still attend your home for confirmation of readings you submit every so often?

Chris 23-10-2024 11:48

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184707)
Does somebody, a meter reader not still attend your home for confirmation of readings you submit every so often?

I had my gas meter replaced a year ago as it wasn’t functioning in smart mode; the new one isn’t working smart either so I’m still manually submitting readings. Problem is, I had to start submitting them from zero again. Even though Octopus knew they had commissioned a new meter, every time I put in a reading it went under review for a week or more before being accepted on my account. And after a few months they did indeed send a meter reader round to verify. Suddenly my manual readings are accepted immediately.

Hugh 23-10-2024 11:50

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184707)
Does somebody, a meter reader not still attend your home for confirmation of readings you submit every so often?

Not in all the time we've had them (around 6 years)

thenry 23-10-2024 12:06

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36184708)
I had my gas meter replaced a year ago as it wasn’t functioning in smart mode; the new one isn’t working smart either so I’m still manually submitting readings. Problem is, I had to start submitting them from zero again. Even though Octopus knew they had commissioned a new meter, every time I put in a reading it went under review for a week or more before being accepted on my account. And after a few months they did indeed send a meter reader round to verify. Suddenly my manual readings are accepted immediately.

What's the point in not having a smart meter then?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36184709)
Not in all the time we've had them (around 6 years)

Did you confuse having a smart meter and not having one?

Chris 23-10-2024 12:17

Re: Smart Meters
 
Sorry … can you rephrase that? I find your double negatives … disturbing :disturbd:

thenry 23-10-2024 12:58

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36184714)
Sorry … can you rephrase that? I find your double negatives … disturbing :disturbd:

Sorry I misread your post and having searched the thread I found that you have a smart meter, I thought you didn't have one. :dunce:

Paul 23-10-2024 18:56

Re: Smart Meters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36184704)
Meanwhile, scare tactics are still being used to get people to accept smart meters.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...e%2Findex.html

That article is also being more scary than it needs to be.
Quote:

Its 'Agile' service charges anything from less than 3p per kilowatt hour (kWh) during the night to £1 per kWh in the evening, when people are most likely to use power.
Agile can go negative, so you're being paid to use electricity.

Technically, the "cap" is £1 per kWh, but it has never reached that figure in its entire history.
The worst period was September 2022 (& December 2022) when it reached 78p on some days.

In 2024 the worst day appears to have actually been last week (14th Oct) when for 90 minutes it was over 60p per kWh.
Higher rates are normally in the 4pm-7pm peak time, as they add a fixed charge to the normal rate, generally about 12p-14p extra.

SnoopZ 25-10-2024 12:33

Re: Smart Meters
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36184583)
Kettle ON
Immersion heater ON
Washing machine ON
PS5 ON
TV ON

Live usage is saying 3,266w for that lot - the kettle, so I'm not running Skynet like Sirius!

Got 0.47 pence for this, far more than I expected, I guess the emersion heater did that.


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