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Damien 01-03-2022 20:34

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Still on it's way apparently although there are reports it's stalled due to logistical issues.

Have we given Ukraine drones? Maybe they can't operate them but a few drone strikes on that convoy might be helpful right now?

RichardCoulter 01-03-2022 20:38

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
They said that they were going to start going for specific targets. It looks like they want to stop information getting out to the public in Ukraine as they have bombed a TV tower (and Jewish graves from a mass shooting in WWII next to it).

Is it possible to easily knock out the internet of a country? I fear that this will be high on the list to stop information reaching Ukranian citizens.

Media Boy UK 01-03-2022 21:00

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
BREAKING NEWS:

Nadine Dorries MP has just post a following on Twitter:

Quote:

Shortly, the French satellite which broadcasts Russia Today (RT) in both the EU and UK will be switched off. This means RT will no longer be available via Sky.
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/st...57648774320132

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Sky receives its RT broadcast from a satellite operator based in Luxembourg, which will be instructed to remove the news channel formerly known as Russia Today, as soon as the European Union sanctions are officially approved on Tuesday night.

RT’s broadcast slot on Sky will initially be blank but the channel will eventually be removed from its programme guide altogether. Representatives of British broadcast platforms Freesat and Freeview were initially unclear as to whether the decision to block the satellite signal would also result in RT vanishing from their platforms.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ithin-24-hours

Hugh 01-03-2022 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115179)
Where was this '40 mile long' convoy when first photographed?


. . . and where is it now?

Sky news says that on Monday it was 17 miles from Keiv . . .

If it is mainly logistical support (fuel, ammo, food, etc.), it doesn’t want to be too close to the front line, due to the risk of destruction by OpFor artillery.

Chris 01-03-2022 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36115185)
They said that they were going to start going for specific targets. It looks like they want to stop information getting out to the public in Ukraine as they have bombed a TV tower (and Jewish graves from a mass shooting in WWII next to it).

Is it possible to easily knock out the internet of a country? I fear that this will be high on the list to stop information reaching Ukranian citizens.

Depends how the internet is delivered. Most people probably rely on fixed phone lines or 4G same as us, so destroying main telephone exchanges shuts off delivery to end users. However, satellite broadband would be harder to disrupt.

Hugh 01-03-2022 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36115185)
They said that they were going to start going for specific targets. It looks like they want to stop information getting out to the public in Ukraine as they have bombed a TV tower (and Jewish graves from a mass shooting in WWII next to it).

Is it possible to easily knock out the internet of a country? I fear that this will be high on the list to stop information reaching Ukranian citizens.

Elon Musk has supplied StarLink Base Stations to the Ukraine Government to mitigate this.

https://fortune.com/2022/03/01/starl...s-arrive-kyiv/

TheDaddy 01-03-2022 21:04

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115179)
Where was this '40 mile long' convoy when first photographed?


. . . and where is it now?

Sky news says that on Monday it was 17 miles from Keiv . . .

There was road works, the lights were out on the high street and bloody extinction rebellion have glued their faces to the road, the convoy is now 19 miles outside keev, kyiv, keiv, sorry Birmingham

RichardCoulter 01-03-2022 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36115194)
Depends how the internet is delivered. Most people probably rely on fixed phone lines or 4G same as us, so destroying main telephone exchanges shuts off delivery to end users. However, satellite broadband would be harder to disrupt.

I assume the internet comes into a country at various points as opposed to a single point like an undersea cable, so I bet you're right and he'll go for telephone exchanges.

1andrew1 01-03-2022 21:42

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30 days is a long time in this conflict and not "full and immediate"!
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Government accused of ‘absurd’ sanctions loophole after giving Russian bank customers 30 days to ‘wind down’ assets

Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced last Thursday that the state-owned VTB Bank, which is the second-largest Russian bank and its largest investment bank, was the subject of a “full and immediate” asset freeze in the UK as part of the Government’s attempts to help derail Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine by targeting key finance houses.

But the following day the Treasury unit in charge of enforcing the UK’s sanctions quietly issued a 30-day licence granting permission for any individual or entity to “wind down any transactions” with VTB until 27 March.
https://inews.co.uk/news/government-...assets-1490017

Paul 01-03-2022 22:39

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Perhaps they want to give Russians in the UK, who almost certainly have no say at all in this war, a chance to get get their money out of the bank, before freezing it.

Mick 01-03-2022 22:44

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Russia threatens “real war” with France over economic sanctions against Russia.

France is in NATO and by itself is a Nuclear power or did they forget that little detail?

Jaymoss 01-03-2022 23:24

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Why did they single France out?

Gavin78 01-03-2022 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36115213)
Why did they single France out?

Seems like they are taking pot shots at any country trying to push a few buttons and see who cracks first.

Basically looking for justification for war

Blackshep 02-03-2022 00:29

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As at least one member is anxious about the reports of nuclear weapon's and dirty bomb's let me say please stop worrying Richard we are not on the brink of a nuclear escalation or even remotely close. The Russians missile regiments have three main training exercises a year with one being end of February, beginning of March Putin has simply televised the routine order for dramatic affect and to cause a stir so please calm yourself.

Right now there are thousands of Russian government employee's on social media based out of the FSB social media department in St Petersburg and the foreign ministry in Moscow so even more then normal social media is not a reliable source of information. As for the 40 mile convoy it is stalled by lack of fuel which has been caused by successful attack's on Russian supply infrastructure by Ukrainian military and militia's although given the utter chaos within these Russian forces they didn't have to work too hard.

Russia's slow advance and failure to seize any of their day 1 & 2 objectives is down to two factor's far greater resistance from the Ukrainian military and their citizens and secondly the Russian forces are demoralised and few have any real enthusiasm for this invasion. Many Russian troop's were told they would be welcomed by Ukrainians as they were not invader's but liberators something they learned was a lie quite quickly.

Putin is encountering a great deal of internal opposition and the sanction's have many of his backer's starting to change their position and advice. The longer this goes on the more precarious Putin's position is, he needed this invasion to succeed quickly and for Russian forces not to become bogged down which is exactly what's happening. The issue is that Putin has backed himself into a corner and to backtrack now would likely be the end for him but he cannot issue a nuclear escalation in isolation as with most nuclear armed nation's there is a structure in place that has to unanimously agree to their release and use at this point even if Putin were to give such a ludicrous order it's extremely unlikely it would happen.

Apologies for any spelling or grammar error's but I'm at the end of what caffeine can do and catching up on this thread it was clear some were anxious I bid you all goodnight I'm off for a kip.

TheDaddy 02-03-2022 01:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36115213)
Why did they single France out?

Known to surrender easily :shrug:


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