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1andrew1 19-06-2020 19:47

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36040445)
It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.

Who's been fired?

nomadking 19-06-2020 19:56

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36040446)
Who's been fired?

Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

Maggy 19-06-2020 20:16

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36040441)
This is not a attempt to put frivolous things forward. This is a scapegoat response from people who don't know how to wash the sin away. They look at the systems and either cannot see a way to reduce racism or are prohibited someway.

Truth is the definition of systemic racism is so flexible that it cannot be solved meaningfully.

:tu:

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So is it insurmountable to actually sort out discrimination? Is it something we have to live with because we can't deal with it?Is it easier to bring up stuff about statues,certain ads,certain songs/nursery rhymes rather than attempt to actually deal with the issue of actually making sure that equality is for everyone. Do we have to avoid finger wagging to actually move forwards?

downquark1 19-06-2020 21:01

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36040449)
:tu:

---------- Post added at 19:16 ---------- Previous post was at 19:10 ----------

So is it insurmountable to actually sort out discrimination? Is it something we have to live with because we can't deal with it?Is it easier to bring up stuff about statues,certain ads,certain songs/nursery rhymes rather than attempt to actually deal with the issue of actually making sure that equality is for everyone. Do we have to avoid finger wagging to actually move forwards?

Well at this point a normal activist organisation would present some proposals which rightly or wrongly would be implemented. But they don't. Instead we turn on each other and tear down the culture, during an international crisis. Which is the point.

Hugh 19-06-2020 21:33

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040444)
It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.

Better "woke" than "broke"... ;)

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36040445)
It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36040446)
Who's been fired?

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36040448)
Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

Rob Liddle, Alexandra Phillips, Sam Ashworth-Hayes, Tom Slater, Toby Young, Brendan O’Neill, Guido Fawkes, et al, and others working for the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Spiked, Spectator, Times, etc.

downquark1 19-06-2020 21:35

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Toby Young was sacked from several positions. How many of those people are not self employed or employed by explicitly anti woke companies.

nomadking 19-06-2020 21:55

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040472)
Rob Liddle, Alexandra Phillips, Sam Ashworth-Hayes, Tom Slater, Toby Young, Brendan O’Neill, Guido Fawkes, et al, and others working for the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Spiked, Spectator, Times, etc.

All depends on how much their employers support their right to say things. They and their employers constantly face a barrage of abuse because of it.

Try saying "All Lives Matter", and see where it gets you.

Just look at all the flak recently aimed at JK Rowling. If she wasn't already successful, how do you think it would go? Would and will the BBC still be interested in anything she creates?

Paul 19-06-2020 23:12

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040472)
... Guido Fawkes

Didnt he get executed about 400 years ago. :D

1andrew1 20-06-2020 01:48

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36040448)
Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

It was you who made a contentious statement that not being woke got you fired... without any apparent evidence. I would suggest a few people on this forum aren't woke and haven't been fired for it.

papa smurf 20-06-2020 08:29

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36040489)
It was you who made a contentious statement that not being woke got you fired... without any apparent evidence. I would suggest a few people on this forum aren't woke and haven't been fired for it.

If you have an opinion that the woke folk don't like you get hounded out by the wokerazzi,that's why people have to quickly issue a statement saying they support a load of stuff that they don't really give a damn about.

Pierre 20-06-2020 09:23

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36040494)
that's why people have to quickly issue a statement saying they support a load of stuff that they don't really give a damn about.

Ain’t that the truth.

The level of corporate virtue signalling has been breathtaking

Maggy 20-06-2020 09:34

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36040481)
Didnt he get executed about 400 years ago. :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Fawkes_(website)

pip08456 20-06-2020 11:06

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36040497)

Nice try Maggy.

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Guy Fawkes (/fɔːks/; 13 April 1570 – 31 January 1606),[a] also known as Guido Fawkes while fighting for the Spanish, was a member of a group of provincial English Catholics who was involved in the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605. He was born and educated in York; his father died when Fawkes was eight years old, after which his mother married a recusant Catholic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Maggy 20-06-2020 11:12

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
OK clever clogs try this..https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/lobby...fawkes-tweets/

Chris 20-06-2020 11:36

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36040499)

How? The original reference (post 590) was obviously referring to the Guido Fawkes website (order-order.com) and I think Paul’s reply was fairly clearly marked as a joke by the use of a :D ...


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