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How else are we going to pay for it? As I said earlier. I would prefer an increase to National Insurance or some sort of compulsory insurance scheme to pool the risk but this is a start.

It's the same argument as student loans really. Those who afford it should pay more alternatively we all pay more via tax.

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Well since we're talking inheritance here it'll be the children/grandchildren of those who wind up paying who will suffer - they'll get less help from their parents which will in turn mean they have less assets for HMG to take.

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It will be the younger generation who'll suffer either way. The alternative to this plan would have been to raise tax/NI on people in work to pay for the shortfall of those who've retired, just after those who've retired were recipients of a triple-lock pension during a time of austerity for everyone else.

Now I still prefer that. I think there is a better argument for increasing spending on social care than there was for the triple-lock but you can see why that approach might have been seen as a unfair path to take.

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Yes, except for the fact that some will suffer disproportionately through no fault of their own whereas the burden could have been spread. I feel the tax option would be a much fairer way of achieving the same end, relatively painlessly.

It's measures such as this which will put off people from saving and lead to those with money/assets to spend it.

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Well yes. I much prefer the idea that we share it out in the same way we do the NHS.

It's not great that the lottery of dementia will dictate how much of your wealth the government will take.

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I can only speak for the school I was at but yes, it was a 1/3rd pint bottle and was delivered at 10am directly by the MMB. It may have been warm but was not sour. It had only been delivered by the cow at about 6.00am.

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We agree on this point.

I don't have an answer for that though.

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But wouldn't children entitled to a fee school dinner get one?

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Well the older I get the more I'll be inclined to spend so they'll get less out of me in the end. ;)

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I would agree if everyone had the same start in life. Unfortunately this is not the case, if it were so poverty would not exist.

There are those like you and myself that have the intelligence and drive to be able to better ourselves but that does not automatically mean that everyone else has it.

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Tories say pensioners in Scotland should escape PM's curbs to winter fuel payments because it's COLDER than England and Wales

Theresa May yesterday unveiled plans to introduce means testing for the benefit - which is worth up to £300 a year - meaning millions could lose out.
But Scottish Secretary David Mundell said that the cuts will not be rolled out in Scotland because of 'climatic issues'.
And Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson said she had decided to keep the universal benefit.





now i feel like a victim because i'm English [i thought we where all British ]

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I don't know but it's not right to tax me, at a higher rate than others, at source, tax me when I buy something, tax me when I sell it and then take away what's left to pay for care at the end but simply hand money out to those who havent strived all through their lives. That's not a 'fairer society'
( I'm not including the disabled or likewise disadvantaged in that whom I am all for helping)

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Indeed, but why should I and my descendants be penalised because of that? :confused:
.....and if we are to be penalised, where is our incentive to work hard all through our lives.....if it'll simply be taken away from us in the end anyway? :shrug:

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From my local Council website

http://www.leeds.gov.uk/residents/Pa...hoolMeals.aspx

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MI5 had their eye on Jeremy Corbyn amid concerns of potential IRA links, during the height of the IRA era.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...rns-ira-links/

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A vote for Theresa May is a vote to bring Margaret Thatcher back in the form of Theresa.

She's seeking approval from you to relive the Thatcher years.

school meals - school milk.
little snotty nosed kids.

the rich getting richer on the backs of the poor.
big fat snotty nosed fatcats.

do you really want that?

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I don't want a terrorist sympathiser for PM that's for sure would get this with Corbyn, but it's not just this that bothers me, it's a package of no hopers that follow him, like his racist, White hating former lover, Abbott who thinks cops earn £30 per year, no sorry make that £8,000, oops sorry wrong again...ah sod it. :rolleyes: