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RichardCoulter 09-02-2019 15:50
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35982739)
Being disabled myself you are very correct in your assumption.
Are these personal opinions/assumptions or do you have verifiable evidence that the majority of disabled people don't want to receive help?

Have you never accepted help from someone in connection with your disability?

Russ 09-02-2019 15:52
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982738)
I do not propose to repeat myself again.
Why not now? Feels like you’ve been doing exactly that for the past 3 years on here.

I think the problem is people with certain conditions are sick to the back teeth of being told how we ought to feel, how our conditions affect us and what we ought to do about it.

denphone 09-02-2019 15:58
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982740)
Are these personal opinions/assumptions or do you have verifiable evidence that the majority of disabled people don't want to receive help?
Disabled people from my own experiences and l know many of them want to be treated just the same as any able bodied person.

Russ 09-02-2019 16:01
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35982742)
Disabled people from my own experiences and l know many of them want to be treated just the same as any able bodied person.
:clap:

denphone 09-02-2019 16:03
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982740)

Have you never accepted help from someone in connection with your disability?
l have a carer plus l have family members and friends who help me but the great thing about them is they treat me the way l want to be treated and that is like any normal able bodied human.

RichardCoulter 09-02-2019 16:06
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35982741)
Why not now? Feels like you’ve been doing exactly that for the past 3 years on here.

I think the problem is people with certain conditions are sick to the back teeth of being told how we ought to feel, how our conditions affect us and what we ought to do about it.
In relation to your conditions, there will be certain common traits unique to every person with ADHD & autusm. However, every individual is different because different people have different severeties, handle & react to their conditions differently, have different reactions to medication and these can vary over time.

I don't, therefore, think it appropriate for you to be told how to feel or how these conditions affect you. These are severe, lifelong & incurable conditions, so it's probably useful to listen to what experts have to suggest, but it wouldn't be professional for a member of staff to tell you what to do about it*, but rather give you a variety of options that you may or may not wish to take up.

* Those in receipt of certain benefits may be required to carry out certain tasks or they could face negative sanctions.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35982744)
l have a carer plus l have family members and friends who help me but the great thing about them is they treat me the way l want to be treated and that is like any normal able bodied human.
If you have a carer, then you aren't being treated in the same way as an able bodied person by definition. This isn't always a bad thing, when I was a child I used to offer to do jobs to help elderly and disabled neighbours, but I didn't do it for those able to do it themselves!

Russ 09-02-2019 16:11
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982745)
In relation to your conditions, there will be certain common traits unique to every person with ADHD & autusm. However, every individual is different because different people have different severeties, handle & react to their conditions differently, have different reactions to medication and these can vary over time.

I don't, therefore, think it appropriate for you to be told how to feel or how these conditions affect you. These are severe, lifelong & incurable conditions, so it's probably useful to listen to what experts have to suggest, but it wouldn't be professional for a member of staff to tell you what to do about it*, but rather give you a variety of options that you may or may not wish to take up.

* Those in receipt of certain benefits may be required to carry out certain tasks or they could face negative sanctions.

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If you have a carer, then you aren't being treated in the same way as an able bodied person by definition. This isn't always a bad thing, when I was a child I used to offer to do jobs to help elderly and dusabled neighbours, but I didn't do it for those able to do it themselves!
“Severe”? RC you really do know nothing. It’s comments like that from your type who assumes to know everything (or even something) about a person’s condition that builds up resentment. Stick to looking after your own life rather than imposing your own ideas on others.

RichardCoulter 09-02-2019 16:23
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35982747)
“Severe”? RC you really do know nothing. It’s comments like that from your type who assumes to know everything (or even something) about a person’s condition that builds up resentment. Stick to looking after your own life rather than imposing your own ideas on others.
Yes, severe because of the significant difficulties posed by the development disorder. You seem to be in denial about your disabilities, this is the case with some people who feel embarrassed or inferior because they have a disability (hardly surprising given the way that some members of society treat us), but I do urge you to speak to someone about this.

This forum has a wealth of information and support resources, which I hope is helpful :)

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/

Russ 09-02-2019 16:30
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Ignorant, arrogant and delusional.

pip08456 09-02-2019 16:33
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35982750)
Ignorant, arrogant and delusional.
He's digging a nice hole for himself though.

RichardCoulter 09-02-2019 16:57
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35982750)
Ignorant, arrogant and delusional.
Unfortunately, my attempts to interact with you are again going nowhere and don't appear to be serving any useful purpose.

Russ 09-02-2019 17:02
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
That would be because I don’t buy in to your BS about being a self-appointed “expert” on matters about disabilities.

RichardCoulter 09-02-2019 17:38
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35982755)
That would be because I don’t buy in to your BS about being a self-appointed “expert” on matters about disabilities.
I have never claimed to be an expert, though I probably have more knowledge than the average person about disability issues through my work & personal circumstances.

Aspergers sufferers typically have difficulty understanding and relating to other people and have poor social and interpersonal skills as a result, which can lead to problems holding down a job, keeping friends and keeping a partner long term.

As a result, becoming over defensive is one of the typical traits of those with the condition as, over time, sufferers grow tired of the negative comments repeatedly directed at them. It can also lead to them becoming sour over time as they don't understand what they are doing and why people dislike their attempts to interact.

I do hope that you can take a look at the Wrong Planet link; people that I know with similar conditions to yourself tell me that they find it invaluable. If you decide to join the forum, it would be prudent to warn you about the rules about how members are expected to interact with each other:

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=73835

Russ 09-02-2019 17:47
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So run it by me, how has my Aspergers caused issues for me becoming a senior Paralegal for a well-known Law firm where I have over 250 current clients and deal with Judges, QCs, Barristers and medical experts on a daily basis, as well as leaving my files open to scrutiny at any time by the SRA?

And maybe while you’re at it could you explain why nobody who actually knows or has met me has ever said anything similar about my Aspergers? Let me guess, maybe they’re too “frightened” to say anything?

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And again, Hell would freeze over before I accept any “help” or “advice” from you.

Mythica 09-02-2019 18:06
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982720)
The elderly and children are also classed as vulnerable.

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Examples have already been provided.
So what about the 'normal' person I mentioned?

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35982749)
Yes, severe because of the significant difficulties posed by the development disorder. You seem to be in denial about your disabilities, this is the case with some people who feel embarrassed or inferior because they have a disability (hardly surprising given the way that some members of society treat us), but I do urge you to speak to someone about this.

This forum has a wealth of information and support resources, which I hope is helpful :)

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/
Have you really just told someone they are in denial about their disabilities? Wow, that's a new low, even for you.


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