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Having a dig at the labour party will never upset me, I just find these tales of ed stabbing David in the back amusing, they went for the same job big deal, they way people go on about it anyone would think he'd usurped him as king or something. Tell you what else I find mildly amusing, a kipper telling me not to get upset by it all, yet you only have to mention St nigel in anything other than veneration and kippers heads literally explode all over you with bile.

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are you sure your not upset you do come over as a little vexed why don't you say something nasty about "Nigel" it might make you feel better and don't worry it wont bother me or any of the ukip voters out there .

and it does seem that some do think he stabbed his sibling in the back
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'Do you regret stabbing your brother in the back?' That's not the way I'd describe it, says Ed as he is grilled by young voters

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He only stabbed his brother in the back if there was some sort of entitlement for his brother to have become leader. There wasn't. He was the favourite but there was no reason why he had any more right to be leader than his brother did. It's silly.

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It'll bother you and the rest of the kippers, you've been programmed to react that way. Oh wait the reporter says he might be being paranoid it's okay, carry on being not bothered

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...athy-vote.html

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Nail. Hit. On. Head

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I call the party nasty. I don't pick on the voters. that's against the forum rules. imsulting other posters.
you shouldn't do it. you should debate. not insult them just because they're not a fan of who you're a fan of.

I won't say what you are ;)

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Vote Labour.

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Or don't if you have an IQ above 6

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I'm guessing you say 6 because you know he's a 7 :D

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Conservatives take four-point lead over Labour in Opinium/Observer poll.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ll-challengers

However.

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The polls are still level pegging. All these variations tend to swing back and forth and remain within margins of error.

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Scary isn't it, Grommet in the driving seat, no real credible noise from Labour during the last 4.5 yrs as Opposition, yet they're racing neck & neck with the muppets in power now, those muppets now (particularly ID(Git)S should do well to reflect on why that is.
By acting the way they did with the demonising, target reaching, and inflammatory way they approached the welfare bill, they've alienated and pee'd off more than they realised - all completely avoidable.
Not the smartest way to make friends and influence people really, and they'll probably be rewarded by losing power, and replacing the Muppets with The Clangers. You couldn't make it up.

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i wouldn't want the back stabber sat behind me ;)

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I don't think that the welfare cuts would have been popular amongst some members of society whichever way the conservatives had gone about it and that says more about sections of our society than it says about the conservatives .The cuts had to made for a variety of reasons not just because of the state of the economy and at least the cons had the guts to see them through

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Do you really think it's just that though? I would assume that people who were, and are, on various benefits are unlikely to have been Conservative voters (also let's remind ourselves the majority are genuine claimants).

There must be another reason the Tories are struggling. It could be that the recovery has been felt to an unequal degree and those towards the 'decent income but not rich' might not have felt it and feel resentful of that fact. Maybe the fact the recovery has been lopsided towards house prices means that those with assets have felt better off but those that aspire to get on that ladder feel further away than ever.

I think another part of it is UKIP. The Conservatives have struggled to keep some of their core supporters whilst reaching out to the more liberal/moderate voters. There is a sizeable amount of conservative voters who feel they've been let down over Europe, immigration and a general sense of conservative values being abandoned in favour of a more urban 'metropolitan' type of voter.

I don't actually know why really. Maybe it's just a general sense of dissatisfaction at all parties means the vote is split but as I said above this means Labour/SNP win as they have a wider appeal outside of England.

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To be clear, it's not the fact that cuts were made, they WERE needed, it's the way they've gone about them.

People declared 'fit to work' to meet bs targets, then drop down dead
Bedroom tax, despite in many areas the only accommodation available has 'too many 'rooms'
Young people who now have more chance of seeing God than ever getting on the housing ladder
Bankers who seem to be exempt from everything 'ordinary people' have to endure when they cock it up
etc etc etc

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There is a sense that both Labour and Tories represent remote, metropolitan politics-as-usual. This has dented both their votes in different ways, depending on whether there is a viable local alternative.

The single biggest example of this is the SNP in Scotland, where wee nippy Sturgeon has, apparently, successfully convinced the electorate that they are True Labour, as opposed to a broad coalition of agitators who only really agree on one thing (the wrecking of the UK).

UKIP stands to gain in East England and one or two other places that, I suspect, were working class Tory in the days of Margaret Thatcher.

Elsewhere, the Greens and the Plaidos will pick up votes, but will they find their support sufficiently concentrated in any one place to make much of a breakthrough? I suspect not.