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harry_hitch 02-12-2014 21:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35744620)
I think we have some decent American shows that come out, but most of these end up on SA.

DOES anyone know, what the cost was, and why VM wont have it - surely, VM have been offered it many times.

But ALWAYS VM say no due to cost - or is it exclusive to Sky.

And before, someone says it. I am moaning.

I believe that VM should show all channels available, especially from Sky. As at the end of the day - WE the customer ends up paying for it.

Arthur, you can get SA via NOwTV. There is nothing stopping you popping to Tesco and getting a box tonight, you do not have to keep making this point, although I do find it rather endearing that you still get so passionate about it.

Going back to your other point about foreign channels, doctors, nurses, soliders, scientists, shop owners from all over the world come to the UK to earn an honest living and help improve our economy. If they pay Sky or VM why should they not be able to watch content from their home country/continent. If they pay VM so they can watch content from their home country/continent, surely that helps keep the costs down? If I moved to Germany, and I paid a cable provider or Sky equivalent, I would expect to be able to watch at least one channel dedicated to British programming.

theone2k10 02-12-2014 22:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35744709)
Arthur, you can get SA via NOwTV. There is nothing stopping you popping to Tesco and getting a box tonight, you do not have to keep making this point, although I do find it rather endearing that you still get so passionate about it.

Going back to your other point about foreign channels, doctors, nurses, soliders, scientists, shop owners from all over the world come to the UK to earn an honest living and help improve our economy. If they pay Sky or VM why should they not be able to watch content from their home country/continent. If they pay VM so they can watch content from their home country/continent, surely that helps keep the costs down? If I moved to Germany, and I paid a cable provider or Sky equivalent, I would expect to be able to watch at least one channel dedicated to British programming.

Especially now as a few retailers are doing the nowtv box for £14.99 with 3 months entertainment pass, i got one earlier from Currys.

passingbat 02-12-2014 22:04

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35744709)
If I moved to Germany, and I paid a cable provider or Sky equivalent, I would expect to be able to watch at least one channel dedicated to British programming.

At the risk of getting Harry going... :D

If I went to a foreign country, I'd expect all the TV channels to be in the native language and just be pleased if their was an English speaking channel.

mhatter67 02-12-2014 22:49

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35744716)
Especially now as a few retailers are doing the nowtv box for £14.99 with 3 months entertainment pass, i got one earlier from Currys.

Not the right thread to talk about Now TV but the tech who replaced my Tivo said there was issues with either SKY HD or Now TV box with a VM phone line?

I want to use Now TV app with my PS3 for the Amir Khan fight so no phone line required, be more than happy to be corrected on this!

Ianmez78 02-12-2014 23:13

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Now Tv app on virgin Tivo would that be an idea

tassiekev 02-12-2014 23:19

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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35744722)
Not the right thread to talk about Now TV but the tech who replaced my Tivo said there was issues with either SKY HD or Now TV box with a VM phone line?

I want to use Now TV app with my PS3 for the Amir Khan fight so no phone line required, be more than happy to be corrected on this!

Got both Sky+HD and Now TV boxes - neither are connected to my VM 'phone line - the Now TV box doesn't even have the necessary socket to connect. Enjoy the fight.

mhatter67 02-12-2014 23:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35744727)
Got both Sky+HD and Now TV boxes - neither are connected to my VM 'phone line - the Now TV box doesn't even have the necessary socket to connect. Enjoy the fight.

Thanks, just downloaded the Now TV app onto my PS3, I will get a weeks pass close to the time of the fight, then all I have to worry about is the broadband with VM going down at 4am on Sunday morning knowing my luck:(

theone2k10 03-12-2014 00:37

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Originally Posted by mhatter67 (Post 35744722)
Not the right thread to talk about Now TV but the tech who replaced my Tivo said there was issues with either SKY HD or Now TV box with a VM phone line?

I want to use Now TV app with my PS3 for the Amir Khan fight so no phone line required, be more than happy to be corrected on this!

The nowtv box is a ROKU and i had a nowtv box when i was with vm and had no issues at all, he might of been refering to the ping issue which stops the box from connecting to the router but that is very easily sorted by turning ping off on the box.

andy_m 03-12-2014 06:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35744717)
At the risk of getting Harry going... :D

If I went to a foreign country, I'd expect all the TV channels to be in the native language and just be pleased if their was an English speaking channel.

Because English is so widely spoken my expectation would be slightly different but if we were talking about any other language then I'd agree. That said we are considerably more multicultural than many countries, even our closest neighbours, so I would expect services from companies in the UK to reflect the make up of those companies' customer base.

MutleyF 03-12-2014 07:52

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If anything, I would prefer to have a wider choice of foreign channels - watching the price is right in Indian is classic !
As has been stated earlier, the UK is a multi-cultural country, so why not show the channels - it widens VM's appeal to customers. and at the end of the day, if they are not to your liking, dont watch them.

nicknewark 03-12-2014 09:33

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Are they not in a package of their own?, if so that would seem more logical, and then who want's to watch them can pay separately for those particular channels.

RichardCoulter 03-12-2014 16:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35744716)
Especially now as a few retailers are doing the nowtv box for £14.99 with 3 months entertainment pass, i got one earlier from Currys.

Thought you already had one? Is it better value to buy another box to get the passes that are thrown in?

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35744717)
At the risk of getting Harry going... :D

If I went to a foreign country, I'd expect all the TV channels to be in the native language and just be pleased if their was an English speaking channel.

Indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianmez78 (Post 35744725)
Now Tv app on virgin Tivo would that be an idea

That's been brought up before, it would seem like an ideal solution, but I doubt VM would want to do it. Cord cutting is becoming an increasing problem (the current strategy is to move channels into lower packages to discourage this). I doubt they would want to encourage streaming channels from a competitor!

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Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35744755)
Are they not in a package of their own?, if so that would seem more logical, and then who want's to watch them can pay separately for those particular channels.

Exactly, like I said earlier, if they aren't preventing English channels from launching due to capacity issues and others aren't expected to pay for them I have no problem with foreign speaking channels.

Unfortunately, there are several in the XL pack that i'm on which means i'm subsidising them. I would expect such channels to be premium add on services, maybe VM have calculated that it draws more asians to the VM platform and/or it encourages them to upgrade to XL and is ultimately more profitable?

I realise that we all effectively subsidise channels that we don't watch, but at least we have the choice to do so if they are in English.

Finally, I do not believe that we are a multicultural country, nor that we should be encouraging this- particularly as the population has never been consulted about this social experiment.

There can only be one culture in any given country, that is not to say that minor cultures should not be tolerated as long as they are not problematic.

Enoch Powell's prediction of "Rivers of blood" has come true, but not quite in the way that he envisaged, but that's for another thread.

theone2k10 03-12-2014 17:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35744853)
Thought you already had one? Is it better value to buy another box to get the passes that are thrown in?

I do mate i bought it for the pass plus i can put the new box in the bedroom.

harry_hitch 03-12-2014 18:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35744853)
Thought you already had one? Is it better value to buy another box to get the passes that are thrown in?



Indeed.



That's been brought up before, it would seem like an ideal solution, but I doubt VM would want to do it. Cord cutting is becoming an increasing problem (the current strategy is to move channels into lower packages to discourage this). I doubt they would want to encourage streaming channels from a competitor!



Exactly, like I said earlier, if they aren't preventing English channels from launching due to capacity issues and others aren't expected to pay for them I have no problem with foreign speaking channels.

Unfortunately, there are several in the XL pack that i'm on which means i'm subsidising them. I would expect such channels to be premium add on services, maybe VM have calculated that it draws more asians to the VM platform and/or it encourages them to upgrade to XL and is ultimately more profitable?

I realise that we all effectively subsidise channels that we don't watch, but at least we have the choice to do so if they are in English.

Finally, I do not believe that we are a multicultural country, nor that we should be encouraging this- particularly as the population has never been consulted about this social experiment.

There can only be one culture in any given country, that is not to say that minor cultures should not be tolerated as long as they are not problematic.

Enoch Powell's prediction of "Rivers of blood" has come true, but not quite in the way that he envisaged, but that's for another thread.

LOL, Social experiment? zenophobe much? Nice to see you are being open minded. Care to define problematic? Do you refuse treatment from non-British Doctors/nurses? Have you never frequented a shop owned by "foreigners"?

Most ludicrous statement I have ever read.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35744717)
At the risk of getting Harry going... :D

If I went to a foreign country, I'd expect all the TV channels to be in the native language and just be pleased if their was an English speaking channel.

LOL, no spirited debate. I should have been clearer. If I was a tax payer in a foreign country, and I was fortunate enough to be able to afford to spend money on a pay TV provider, I would fully expect, in this day and age to be able to watch a channel with content from my home nation(s). I appreciate it is peoples choice to move, but I feel very sorry for those in this country that can not watch anything from their home nation. As I say though, it was their choice to move, so if they miss out, it is all part of the decision they had to make when moving.

tassiekev 03-12-2014 18:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
Coming soon, the Xenophobia channel - where a man in white robes and a white pointy hat (to protect his identity) stands in front of a burning cross reciting old speeches by Nig El Farrage


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