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Taf 30-09-2013 19:08

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
which should encourage the 6 on the dole to get a job
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35626835)
The council could employ them.][/COLOR]

Our local council has been very actively laying-off most of their interior and exterior cleaners. Perhaps this is what they have been waiting for?

Gary L 30-09-2013 21:37

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35626890)
Our local council has been very actively laying-off most of their interior and exterior cleaners. Perhaps this is what they have been waiting for?

Probably.
it's a good way of saving all that money they've got to save.

lay them off gradually saying it's all due to the cuts. and by the time enough people start complaining about there's no cleaning or anything being done for the council tax they pay.
the council can say well yes things are looking a bit dirty lately. we'll have to ask the DWP to send us a few thousand **** bags :)

Chris 30-09-2013 23:19

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So Gary, are you a council worker in fear of his job, or a long-term claimant in fear of a job?

martyh 30-09-2013 23:25

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35627004)
So Gary, are you a council worker in fear of his job, or a long-term claimant in fear of a job?

Clever :D

it certainly does seem that panic is setting in

Gary L 30-09-2013 23:31

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35627004)
So Gary, are you a council worker in fear of his job, or a long-term claimant in fear of a job?

Neither.

Are you a politician or a chemist?

Chris 30-09-2013 23:34

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Both. When did you stop beating yourself up?

Gary L 30-09-2013 23:38

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35627006)
Clever :D

it certainly does seem that panic is setting in

You're starting to sound like a policeman who thinks that just because someone runs, then they need arresting :)

How do you fit into the discussion?
or are you here as just the worker?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35627008)
Both. When did you stop beating yourself up?

When I broke my own nose.

martyh 01-10-2013 00:17

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35627009)

How do you fit into the discussion?
or are you here as just the worker?
.

to provide a bit of balance when you lot start whinging that us workers aren't working hard enough to pay for all the dole you want ;)

Gary L 01-10-2013 00:29

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35627024)
to provide a bit of balance when you lot start whinging that us workers aren't working hard enough to pay for all the dole you want ;)

Don't put yourself down too much, Marty.
I'm sure you're working as hard as you possibly can to pay their dole :)

TheDaddy 01-10-2013 08:03

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35626830)
which should encourage the 6 on the dole to get a job

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and what do you think will happen if LA's suddenly start laying of their workers in favour of "free DWP workers",there will be safeguards in place to prevent that as there are now with the other schemes

My first ever job was in a park, I was working with one other guy, he told me one day there used to be six park keepers, I replaced five of them during the nineties mass council cuts, I saw him a couple of years back and it's just him there now, so if there's a free workforce there they'll take advantage of them whether that's through not replacing people that leave or more machiavellian methods remains to be seen.

Osem 01-10-2013 14:12

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35626886)
This has shocked me, i did not realise so much is being paid out in just one council area.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24259715

So those involved in this are claiming huge housing benefit (often fraudulently) which pays for posh flats which are then illegally sub-let to make additional income which isn't declared to the authorities for tax or benefit purposes. :mad: It beggars belief really!

martyh 01-10-2013 14:31

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35627152)
So those involved in this are claiming huge housing benefit (often fraudulently) which pays for posh flats which are then illegally sub-let to make additional income which isn't declared to the authorities for tax or benefit purposes. :mad: It beggars belief really!

This is the type of benefit fraud that a lot of people don't think about when discussing benefit fraud ,normally discussions are confined to people working and claiming or giving false information to inflate a claim for sickness .I've said in these threads many times when told what the fraud figures are that they are a best guess because the majority of fraud remains undetected ,in this case i would suggest that poor management of the housing stock is allowing this type of fraud to be so widespread

richard s 01-10-2013 15:20

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35626805)
Expenses are just recompense for money spent, so how could anybody retire because of it.:rolleyes:


Your telling me these MPs have spent £155,000 of their own money and are now claiming it back!!!

martyh 01-10-2013 15:30

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35627178)
Your telling me these MPs have spent £155,000 of their own money and are now claiming it back!!!

that's generally how expenses work ,spend the money ,keep the receipt and claim it back from your employer

Sirius 01-10-2013 16:30

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35627178)
Your telling me these MPs have spent £155,000 of their own money and are now claiming it back!!!

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35627185)
that's generally how expenses work ,spend the money ,keep the receipt and claim it back from your employer

That's as long as you have the £115,000 in the first place. I consider myself to be well paid and i would never get away with spending that much on expenses and i have not the money to be able to spend that much over a year anyway.


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