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Quality picture too

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sorry wrong conference starts 10 august not all waiting for the rubbish premier. I like football but no time and space for those who destroyed the game in england.

Others have other interests and others sports may miss.

If vm think this way then its naive and stupid.

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BT Sport :cleader:

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There is more than just the Premier league that is on BT sport. So waiting for the cheapest price until 17th august is a joke now. I personally prefer UFC to Football and so it looks like I am supposed to miss out on UFC 163 on Saturday because Virgin are tight arses. I think I will just watch a stream online and wait until my contract is up and leave.

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It's on now, it was on channel 57. channel 58 and 59 are scrambled

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Just turned to ESPN (I forget the number for eurosport) and I received 30 seconds of ESPN before the slate came up. The picture had no sound but the DOG was visible in the corner saying ESPN HD. So the feed is still getting to Virgin, they are just blocking it with the slate?

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As I understand it, BT Sports will soon become available in southern Ireland on the Liberty Global owned UPC cable network.

It will be in the Setanta pack- and therein lies the difference. I imagine that BT will be dealing with Setanta as a third party and not UPC (and more importantly, not have access to their customer details).

This means that UPC don't have to open up their network to 3rd parties.

Perhaps this could be a solution for the VM situation if XL talks fail to achieve a resolution. ie route standalone BT subscriptions via a standalone (preferably sports) channel eg Boxnation*.

* Boxnation is currently wholesaled by VM and then retailed to VM customers, but I'd hope arrangements could be made to facilitate this if necessary.

BT will then only receive data about VM Boxnation customers.

As Boxnation is about to launch an HD variant and BT are tipped to buy Boxnation, this might offer a solution.

I'm sure both negotiating teams are exploring every avenue to reach a suitable arrangement for both parties :)

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agreed. it's the same ludicrous, sick bucket inducing guff as people who say a Nurse or Soldier should be paid £200,000 a week because a footballer is. Nurses and Soldiers aren't professional entertainers within a commercial industry that generates billions so they shouldn't earn £200k a week. if they were, then they would.

personally watching Merseyside Derby on BT Sport means more than life and death to me. it's not my problem to deal with wars and famine, and the political unrest in Afghanistan, it doesn't affect my daily life in any way shape or form. so I don't care.

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I'm sure you're right, it would be sensible to keep the feed going whilst negotiations are still taking place to resume transmission :)

Edit: Just had a thought, if VM take their ESPN feed from satellite, then what you spotted is a good sign.

AFAIK when ESPN officially changed hands, the satellite feed changed.

This would mean that VM have reconfigured their satellite receiving equipment to receive the "new" ESPN.

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That's the worst post i have ever seen on here, truly ludicrous!

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That's good news. Have Virgin made an official announcement about this on Twitter, Facebook or the Virgin Community forum? Would be good to have a link for others to see if they want to cancel too.

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Couldn't agree more so thanks as I was trying to find a polite way of commenting and failed

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if you cancel TV your other packages will go up as lose bundle discount

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That actually made me laugh.... Have they made an official announcement about ANYTHING????? The short answer though, is no. But I have now that information from them twice, in separate calls.

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Very true. Thanks for sharing.

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Of course anyone who really felt that way about watching the game and wasn't indulging in a spot of massive hyperbole, would actually be in the stands not on his sofa.

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Likewise...

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I see that UPC have done a deal for BT Sport. I wonder why VM and BT cant strike a deal

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:clap::clap::clap:

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It doesn't apply to me as my 18 month contract was up months ago so I could potentially cancel all and say bye bye to VM with all services.

Saying that the package I get is such a bargain even with loosing ESPN that with sky for the same package I would be paying an extra £30 per month. So for me there is no need to pick up the phone and cancel.

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Don't know what you're getting excited about.

Looking at Freeview of it. Interview with Jonny Wilkinson, followed by that great rugby expert...er. Steve Mcmanaman! What the hell does he know about rugby!! :o:

By the way i blame BT and VM for the fiasco! BT have no interest in making BT SPORT available on VM. They have been targeting VM customers for weeks, and they are so arrogant they think they can blackmail VM subscribers across.

They have a paltry 500,000 so far, and how many of those on BT free offer Broadband? The s**t will hit the fan in 12 months time, when they ask for subs from them..if they are still around that long!

Believe that they will be forced to make available to VM in the end..hopefully!

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That's the 64 million dollar question Mr Stokes.

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Probably making something out of nothing because the graphics team aren't usually the brightest bunch but;

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/44.jpg

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I'm not going to say I told you so. I'm not. I'm not.

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Because BT don't want to strike a deal!

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They can its just taking longer

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Go on - feel free

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Hmm..that is interesting.

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But they have had plenty of time to conclude a deal TB.

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Watch your mouth, young man.

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Ok has been a long day what have I missed??

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Probably because VM are negotiating for a bulk buy deal to include in the XL package rather than just selling on as a full price add on.

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Could be due to how VM want to position their customer proposition ?

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Not very much really, just another day of Speculation and intense conversation...just the normal. UPC have acquired the rights to broadcast BT Sport. That's about it!

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Thanks but I meant about that picture of blocks of channels that peeps said was interesting....

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Wow..even Den getting annoyed, who has the camera..Kodak moment :D

(kids, to explain, a "Kodak moment" is a special rare moment in one's life.
A "den" (latin name liverpoollius horribus) is a fervent supporter of all things virgin, in fact any virgin)

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[QUOTE=AndyWW;35604098]Probably because VM are negotiating for a bulk buy deal to include in the XL package rather than just selling on as a full price add on.[/

That's my view too, everything comes to he who waits!

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Oh sorry. It had Sky News HD in the bottom right corner..

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Plenty of posts on Facebook and the Virgin Media Community thread which confirms Virgin are letting people out of their TV contract due to the loss of ESPN.

People also seem to be getting between £8 and £10 off their package after calling Virgin threatening to cancel!

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1930930/page/2

It pays to know your T&C's!

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Ok... hope that is right not a graphic error!

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Only way virgin are going to get bt sports is by customers being charged for it I reckon about 8 quid a month. Just my opinion. There is no way bt's golden nugget is going to be included free of charge

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If you read my my post earlier old chap you will find me quite critical of Virgin.:erm::nono:

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That's why people should be phoning Virgin now. Virgin are reportedly giving discounts of between £8 and £10 to some people threatening to cancel:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1930930/page/2

Get £10 knocked off your bill now, and use it towards BT Sports if any when it arrives!

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Virgin just need to accept they are not going to get it in the XL package!

Just make is available to us for a subscription if they have to.

We'd rather have the chance to get it, even if we have to pay, then not have it at all!

Idiots

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man city game on freeview

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That is the last resort outcome - you don't jump staight to that in a negotiation. That would be idiotic!

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Last resort?

It's launch day.

They've had a year to negotiate this.

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I know I was having a jolly old chap ;)

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To be fair, a Virgin year is opposite to Dog years, 1 normal year is 1/7 of a virgin year. So it is only 1.7 months, 52 days, just over 7 weeks.

Hardly anytime to negotiate :D

(the counting was brought to you by the letter "C" and the number "25")

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Launch day but how many football fans will be too bothered until the season starts.

How many player transfer deals are done on the last day of the window? It is a part of negotiation strategy.

Just take a deep breath and see what happens.

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No news is VM news :)

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don't rub it in :(:(:(

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I'm a LIverpool fan.

There's 3 Liverpool matches on BT Sport before the PL starts on the 17th.

And then we are the first PL game on BT SPort on the 17th at 12:45.

So if this talk of 'being told something on the 17th' is true, it's probably too late to get it on in time for that match as well.

This should have been sorted out by now. they've had more than enough time.

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I don't have any insiders or any other official communication but I truly believe that things will sort themselves out very soon. Some negotiations take time. It has to be the right conclusion for both parties involved. It isn't as simple as negotiating 'a price' it's more about getting the best deal for Virgin's customers.

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same. Liverpool fan too. i can't get it on Virgin without an upgrade to a collection which will take weeks. i can't go ahead and order it on my Sky Freesat until i know if Virgin are getting it or not. so i'm stuck. i need to know now ffs. so i can get it all sorted before the 17th.

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It's no good to Scottish football fans. The Scottish season kicks-off tomorrow night on BT Sports with Partick Thistle v Dundee United. Then on Saturday the 10th they have Rangers v Brechin.

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Like the two years we have had to wait for Sky Atlantic and alas we are still waiting for it.

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Watching bt sports at me mums just to rub it in Steven Gerard testimonial on bt sports Saturday,not happy !!!!

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Sky haven't really got BT sport though cause to get it through Sky you need to be a BT BB subscriber, which is pretty stupid really.

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The X Games starts tonight (about 2a.m.), They need to get it sorted by then.

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I know what you mean, I'm a Rangers fan. Oh well.

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To get it for free on SKY you need to be a BT broadband customer. SKY customers without BT broadband can get the channels for £12.00 or £15.00 in HD.

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or pay BT direct if you not got BT BB

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That's just how negotiations work I'm afraid. There are not enough Liverpool fans to make those games a critical deadline. Now if it had been the League champions...

I'm afraid it is a case of hang tight and wait for the outcome or jump ship now.

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Welcome to the forum ;) :D

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Yeah, I think that's an issue more than likely with the HBO content and the exclusivity. Some day...

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And if they got it before 1 Aug, Hd was free.

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Thanks, just thought i'd join the circus instead of just watching it :)

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Ah I see didn't know that, maybe that's the hold up with VM then they don't want BT sport under the same circumstances as Sky free with BT BB, they could potentially lose a lot of BB customers that way.

Can't see it going to XL package for free then, possibly £5 off.

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Liverpool have got hardly any fans, that's why they're on TV 9 times in the first 13 matches like.

same number of times as the "league champions."

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I'd say put your 30 day cancellation request in now. Should BT Sports arrive on the 17th give Virgin a call and cancel your request. If it doesn't launch on the 17th you only have 13 days left of your cancellation period to go before you can join BT or SKY.

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You might want to re-think that.

Liverpool and United fans provide the biggest audiences for televised games, BY FAR.

We have just sold out a 95,000+ capacity stadium for a friendly in Australia!

Very, very few clubs have a fanbase as big as Liverpool's.

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Indeed welcome.:welcome:

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I was a long term watcher before I joined too

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Thanks again. :)

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But they dropped the court order (you didn't say what you were "watching"), and that allowed you to chat on the forum :D

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Just banter mate. :)

Virgin will have to look at the bigger picture though rather than just specific games.

With any luck negotiations will be resolved in time for you to see Liverpool lose. ;)

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One of those watchers eh

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I've heard about that type of watcher, I don't think i'm one of them though. :)

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Well i still want sky Atlantic to appear...

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Peeping Chad :)

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Me too..but I don't think it will. Maybe before the year is out.

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ha ha don't give me that, that wasn't banter, you meant it. fact is man united on tv 9 times in first 13, liverpool on TV 9 times in the first 13 games. precisely the same amount of demand for both clubs whether mancs like to admit it or not.

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forget about bt sport...Swansea versus Malmo on itv 4 now..who needs bt sports lol and as they say its free on itv

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And any other club who was scrambling about in 6th-8th place like we have been would not be on as much as we are.

We are just a huge club. BUt anyway, that's not the point.

I keep saying I need to go to the games a bit more, maybe this will be the kick I need.

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I am keeping an eye on that too

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It's like Rangers, somehow, almost all of our games were televised last year and we were in the SFL3. Maybe they show the games that attract a lot of media interest. Who knows?

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Oh, I accidentally clicked on football discussion thread.

Oh wait no here you go http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...14-season.html

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I need to put my Sky Sport back on tomorrow

I can't exactly do that, and then in the next breath threaten to leave.....

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They make such good 'car crash' TV :p:

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you can, threaten to leave in 30 days :D

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Got to say BT Sport looks like it's going to be much better than the old ESPN with all the extra shows and docs and love that glass pitch. They have some good people and glad to see Ray Stubbs has joined them. Danny Baker on Friday nights and Tim Lovejoy back on Saturday mornings too!

Even more gutted we don't have it now.

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Yeah me too in HD :)

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We live in hope.:)

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So far it's been pretty impressive. Looks like BT are going to give this a fair crack.

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That sounds good. I did wonder where Ray Stubbs was on the presenter line-up I saw earlier. Yeah, i'm gutted too but i'm sure we'll get it soon.

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Are you from Manchester? Because I only accept any attempt at criticism from United fans who are actually from Manchester. Somebody IP Check this bloke.

Anyway, my topic was sport releated. both sides are on BT Sport 3 times and 6 times on sky each, that's TV related. I'll leave it at that.

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Big Ron might dust off his gold and make a come back on BT sport, help fund his Nazi memorabilia.

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I will also leave the football banter there except to confirm that I am, indeed, from Manchester.