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Ramrod 02-04-2004 09:09

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Finally!
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Immigration chaos engulfs Labour
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Ms Hughes resigned as Immigration Minister yesterday morning after admitting that she had misled the public by giving the impression in interviews that she had not known about a suspected East European visa scam.

Pierre 02-04-2004 09:44

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Once again this minister has proven that when faced with difficult situation/question the instinctive action of this government is to lie.

They clamed middle managers did it without their knowledge. They instigated an "Internal enquiry" that supposedly proved this?

When the second accusation came about she stood up in parliament and claimed she knew nothing about it.

She lied, Blunket lied and only when there was absolutlely no visible avenue of escape, when it became clear that there was evidence she did know about it, she jumped.

Then they have the cheek to call her person of integrity.

This government are as corrupt and deceitful as any Tory government. In fact the tories are looking a lot more attractive by the day

Ramrod 02-04-2004 13:51

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Originally Posted by Pierre
Once again this minister has proven that when faced with difficult situation/question the instinctive action of this government is to lie.

They clamed middle managers did it without their knowledge. They instigated an "Internal enquiry" that supposedly proved this?

When the second accusation came about she stood up in parliament and claimed she knew nothing about it.

She lied, Blunket lied and only when there was absolutlely no visible avenue of escape, when it became clear that there was evidence she did know about it, she jumped.

Then they have the cheek to call her person of integrity.

This government are as corrupt and deceitful as any Tory government. In fact the tories are looking a lot more attractive by the day

Yup, just shows you cannot trust any of them. I also expected more integrity from female ministers :(

downquark1 02-04-2004 14:39

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Originally Posted by Pierre
Once again this minister has proven that when faced with difficult situation/question the instinctive action of this government is to lie.

They clamed middle managers did it without their knowledge. They instigated an "Internal enquiry" that supposedly proved this?

When the second accusation came about she stood up in parliament and claimed she knew nothing about it.

She lied, Blunket lied and only when there was absolutlely no visible avenue of escape, when it became clear that there was evidence she did know about it, she jumped.

Then they have the cheek to call her person of integrity.

This government are as corrupt and deceitful as any Tory government. In fact the tories are looking a lot more attractive by the day

Perhaps she forgot, I imagine she gets a lot and things and this probably was considered low priority at the time :dozey:

Macready 02-04-2004 15:13

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aye,

Look at everything blair has done and achieved in his time in power, time for people to bring about the end of his reign, Gordon Brown would have probably been a better candidate than him within that party. As I still cant see the Tories making any sort of decent government either.

It honestly still makes me laugh how blair can never answer a question straight as well.

Chris 02-04-2004 16:43

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Originally Posted by downquark1
Perhaps she forgot, I imagine she gets a lot and things and this probably was considered low priority at the time :dozey:

I would have thought it difficult for an immigration minister to ascribe a low priority to warnings of an immigraion scam ...

More likely she gambled that none of this would come out, or that if it did, people would understand. There's something about the political mindset that ensuers some people, on attaining real power, often get so convinced of their own uprightness that they genuinely can't see when they've done something wrong.

Blair has on more than one occasion been accused of having just such a 'Messiah complex'.

SMHarman 02-04-2004 16:57

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Originally Posted by downquark1
Perhaps she forgot, I imagine she gets a lot and things and this probably was considered low priority at the time :dozey:

Indeed - thats what her junior ministers and High level civil servants are for - to make sure she does not forget this kind of memo / statement. IMHO She knew she had said it.

MadGamer 02-04-2004 17:01

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Why should immigrants come over here and get free health on the NHS when we go over to forigen countries and we have to pay for it. Its a bit silly really.

Damien 02-04-2004 17:34

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That is a bad generalisation, Most Immigrants bring someone to the countrys. Again a lot of shortages in the NHS are helped with the introduction of immigratiants as staff.

Also if there are legal and start working (like most do) then THEY are also paying for the NHS and are part of the UK just like you. No-one has more 'right' to live here than anyone else!

Where you born does not matter.

Also what about those coming over fleeing bad goverments? In Nazi germany a lot of people from poland came over here (especcialy Jews) but we didnt let too many people come over and a lot of them where killed.

We should keep a open mind instead of jumping into the hype and causing hatred


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