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th'engineer 08-03-2004 20:57

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
Don't switch to another one, it masks the real problem and upsets our load calculations.

th'eng - how do you know you were going through cache10? Just testing how much people know of how caches work. I'm perfectly willing to admit there's a problem if I see some evidence.

checked on all net tools BBK

swoop101 08-03-2004 21:03

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
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Originally Posted by BBKing
How do you know?

'cos we use things like THIS that tell us the proxy. :D

Florence 08-03-2004 21:14

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
How do you know?

Also, I hope anyone having problems is calling in to report them. As usual I look a fool when I tell people unofficially that I think there are issues and then can't back it up.

Robin walker link gives you the ip and cache. http://www.all-nettools.com/pr.htm

th'engineer 08-03-2004 21:17

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty
Robin walker link gives you the ip and cache. http://www.all-nettools.com/pr.htm

Thats what i use

Chrysalis 08-03-2004 21:30

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
ntl are hard to understand, their aup is designed just for web browsing, then they turn on proxies that remove the advantage of having a faster connection in the first place.

ian@huth 08-03-2004 21:45

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
Don't switch to another one, it masks the real problem and upsets our load calculations.

th'eng - how do you know you were going through cache10? Just testing how much people know of how caches work. I'm perfectly willing to admit there's a problem if I see some evidence.

It's alright saying don't switch to another one but we do want to actually connect to sites at times. I would sooner have your load calculations upset and be able to use my connection rather than you having accurate load calculations and me having no access to most of the sites I want to go to.

BBKing 08-03-2004 22:02

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Except that by switching en masse you're merely transferring the problem. I don't particularly want to get into an argument about it, apart from anything else I'm beginning to think there might be a problem here, but it won't get fixed except by people biting the bullet and ringing up about it.

Oh, and that link doesn't show you which proxy you're on, it merely shows the proxy caching content from the IP address of that particular web server. Different thing entirely. You're on a set of proxies, not a single one, it's important to remember that when it comes to diagnosing problems*

*apart from anything else, if you can see that page it indicates that there *isn't* a problem with the cache it thinks you are on, as you have been served a page by it, thus giving the opposite diagnosis to what's really happening.

Womble 08-03-2004 22:14

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Having read this thread I am also suffering a similar problem here is Surrey. I am/was on "cache1-herm.server.ntli.net". When I sent a document via IE to the Open Uni it couldn't be opened, but when I sent it via mail it was fine. I have changed the proxie all is fine.
I do agree with BB King that changing masks the problem, but I needed to resolve my problem pronto or I lose marks

th'engineer 08-03-2004 22:35

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
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Originally Posted by Womble
Having read this thread I am also suffering a similar problem here is Surrey. I am/was on "cache1-herm.server.ntli.net". When I sent a document via IE to the Open Uni it couldn't be opened, but when I sent it via mail it was fine. I have changed the proxie all is fine.
I do agree with BB King that changing masks the problem, but I needed to resolve my problem pronto or I lose marks

NTL will never learn they will just end up losing customers in the north west as BBK says phone up complain see here for Alan Grant in the NW

Womble 08-03-2004 22:41

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
I'm in the South mate. I will be phoning Crawley Court NMC and DTOC Langley (IP Sur) in the morning. Its ****e TBH, this happened last year and no one wanted to know!.

iadom 08-03-2004 22:59

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitty
I am on cache1-mant.server.ntli.net and have found pages slow loading and I was trying to register a domain name with 123-reg and gave up as it never finished checking if it was available.

I have to say things have slowed down since proxies was put back on. I can get around the websites just they are slow and since the proxies I can't access the BB+ it apears my 3 months free are now up early as it never opens the page for me to look or listen to anything. I cannot reregister as when you click to use it now nothing happens..

:(

I can honestly say that I have noticed no difference at all, just tried BB+ ( forgot I had 3 months free) and it seems faster than when I signed up last month.

th'engineer 09-03-2004 06:47

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
I have a theory that in the NW people have more than one PC connected therefore the proxies need to handle up to three times the normal load.

Thats why they fall over as they are only speced to handle assumed load not x3

BBKing 09-03-2004 08:00

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
They would have three times the load if they were all being used simultaneously. Mind you it's a good point, the average BB equipped household these days will have >1 PC, although possibly not much greater.
Quote:

I am/was on "cache1-herm.server.ntli.net"
No you aren't, as explained earlier. The sooner people grasp that they aren't 'on' a particular proxy the better. You're on Hersham proxies. Thanks for the report though.

Ringing DTOC will just annoy them, partly because they aren't customer facing but mainly because they're the wrong people - they look after proxies for STB interactive, but have nothing to do with broadband apart from STB registration and provisioning. NMC do look after them though, but aren't customer facing either.

Womble 09-03-2004 09:30

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing
Ringing DTOC will just annoy them, partly because they aren't customer facing but mainly because they're the wrong people - they look after proxies for STB interactive, but have nothing to do with broadband apart from STB registration and provisioning. NMC do look after them though, but aren't customer facing either.

Yeah, I love annoying them!!. I'm not only a customer but also a network engineer, and its bloody hard for me to get them off their fat a***s to do any thing!!....but here goes

wizardman 09-03-2004 18:04

Re: [Merged] Manchester Proxies.
 
AHEM can anybody retrieve their msn hotmail thru msn messenger and btw im on cache 10 in Lovely Bolton :pp


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