Re: Remarks about Sucide Bombers
 

Bloody well should have! Didn't he fire the first shot on 'bloody Sunday'? :notopic:

Re: Remarks about Suicide Bombers
 

I understand that you said that you arn't comparing the two but if you put the two next to each other and then use the first to explain the second then a comparison becomes inevitable. Anyway, I just said that it was a bad example because the factor of addiction isn't present in the Palestinian case.

But she didn't just say that she understands why they do it, hell, I understand why they do it. She actually said that she might do it herself in that situation. Big difference.

Re: Remarks about Suicide Bombers
 

And I admit that if I was homeless and living on the streets, I may take drugs gain and addition and steal to pay for it. Doesn't mean I condone it - it's my circumstances.

Actually, I'd probably commit suicide before that happened, but I don't condone that either.

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So that means you wouldnt gain an addiction etc. ;) :D
Anyhoo....I think that we are splitting hairs here. She shouldn't have said it, bad choice of words. Shouldn't have lost her job over it either.
*ramrod out* :)

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Which she said was an awful thing to think, expressing the awful conditions the palestinians are living under which drives them to do such things.
Remember, alot of these bombers aren't doing it because they think they'll go to heaven, they're doing it because they are personally at war with the state of israel which has invaded their country and treats them as second class citizens. Israel is very good at letting the line between Israeli and Jew get muddled, how many times have you heard an Israeli spokes person being interviewed say that to be anti-Israel is to be anti-jew?
Most of the arab nations have to hatred of jews (they're brothers), it's the state of israel that they have the problem with.
Tonge was trying to get this across, that the situation is so bad, that a few people feel that the only thing they can do is blow up innocent people.
Now think, how bad would things have to be to make you feel like that? Don't say you'd never do it, answer the question, how bad would things have to be?
Would the constant humiliation at security checks, the unrepentant killing of innocent children (perhaps even your family members) by the goverment, the destruction of family homes, the constant invasion of your homeland, the total loss of human rights, the restrictions on what jobs you can do and how much you can earn, the restrictions on whether you can visit your family or not, how much of that and more happening to you yourself could you turn a blind eye to before you finally crack and decide something needs to be done?

Re: Remarks about Suicide Bombers
 

I really hope you aren't suggesting an entire arab state commits suicide :eek:


Besides, if memory serves it's outlawed by the qua'ran