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zing_deleted 21-08-2006 15:54
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It does enable you to the fact maybe sometimes it prioritises other tasks more doesnt mean the cores are not individual

ZrByte 21-08-2006 15:58
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
It does enable you to the fact maybe sometimes it prioritises other tasks more doesnt mean the cores are not individual
I know that, I never said it didnt, My only point was that it doesnt assign one CPU per applictation, wich is what Paddy1 and the PC World Advert implied.

zing_deleted 21-08-2006 16:10
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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy1
Technically speaking, they are not lieing here. A single core machine can only execute a single instruction at a time so whether the instruction is part if your uploading thread or your downloading thread, you can in fact only do one thing at a time, whereas a dual core processor will do both at the same time.
Ah but running two processes at once isnt the same as running two applications, both processors will work on both applications not one cpu per app, infact at some points both will be working one application while neglecting the other. So it actually doesnt enable you to do both anymore than a single core does, it just enables you to do it more efficiently, also a fair bit faster too.
You did say that lol

ZrByte 21-08-2006 16:41
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
You did say that lol
Yes but you are taking me out of context, I was pointing out that each core is not assigned its own application but rather that each core handles a sepperate process. Never did I say that they technically only have one core wich is what you seem to think I said.

Paddy1 21-08-2006 16:54
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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Yes but you are taking me out of context, I was pointing out that each core is not assigned its own application but rather that each core handles a sepperate process. Never did I say that they technically only have one core wich is what you seem to think I said.
I did mean that 2 instructions can be executed simultaneously on a dual core chip. Of course, that doesn't mean that one core would be dedicated to each app. That would be silly. It will always be the next 2 instructions that are required. Each core is still time-slicing lots of different processes.

paul11974 21-08-2006 20:47
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ok show us a good value pc desktop or laptop ?

zing_deleted 21-08-2006 21:04
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i have a few here

paul11974 21-08-2006 21:33
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
i have a few here

no i mean online or sjop retailers with links

Robster 22-08-2006 00:43
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When I started this thread I didn't expect it to be so popular, obviously I've hit a nerve

I think its difficult for an everyday home user to find what I would call a good value PC, for the main reason that the amount of RAM almost never matches the potential of the CPU or the rest of the system when you go to PC World or any other major retailer.

The result of this is that it will be a shorter period before newer software makes the system seem slow, and if you don't know much about computers you'll think you need a whole new PC, making it overall bad value.

I've been fairly certain for some time that this is intentional and a cynical ploy by the major retailers to reduce the length of time before you are back in the shop buying a new PC.

AntiSilence 22-08-2006 00:53
Re: PC World dual core advert
 
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
no im saying major retailers are ie Time Dell PB HP PCW major players
smaller players Evesham Mesh sell much better spec machines for the same dollar
Mind you I wouldnt buy a pre built system from anywhere
I build my own PC's too, but if I were setting up a business and needed some cheap office PC's, I'd buy them pre-built.

bobna 22-08-2006 01:33
Re: PC World dual core advert
 
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Originally Posted by Robster
When I started this thread I didn't expect it to be so popular, obviously I've hit a nerve

I think its difficult for an everyday home user to find what I would call a good value PC, for the main reason that the amount of RAM almost never matches the potential of the CPU or the rest of the system when you go to PC World or any other major retailer.

The result of this is that it will be a shorter period before newer software makes the system seem slow, and if you don't know much about computers you'll think you need a whole new PC, making it overall bad value.

I've been fairly certain for some time that this is intentional and a cynical ploy by the major retailers to reduce the length of time before you are back in the shop buying a new PC.
i can agree with you on this, every time i've done a pc world health check on a customers machine that has been bought there there's a section at the end with recomendations that we think will improve their system,
memory is the most common upgrade,
with 256mb in most machines i've seen it's just not enough most of todays programs and games
next is probably graphics most machines have crappy onboard and customers wonder why it won't play hl2 or bf2 even though their machine has a 3ghz cpu and enough hdd space and don't even know if their machine will take a agp or pci-e card upgrade, most don't only because their not told, only in the very latest machines iv'e seen the slots for them
i think it is a plot to get customers to keep coming back for help and this is why they get anoyed with places like pcw and currys (digital)

zing_deleted 22-08-2006 08:19
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Originally Posted by AntiSilence
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb
no im saying major retailers are ie Time Dell PB HP PCW major players
smaller players Evesham Mesh sell much better spec machines for the same dollar
Mind you I wouldnt buy a pre built system from anywhere
I build my own PC's too, but if I were setting up a business and needed some cheap office PC's, I'd buy them pre-built.
really? lol ok well ive been building office systems and the towers are costing me less than 200 quid I cant find pre built that cheap. I certainly as a system builder wouldnt waste money buying systems retail

pop80_uk 22-08-2006 13:02
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
really? lol ok well ive been building office systems and the towers are costing me less than 200 quid I cant find pre built that cheap. I certainly as a system builder wouldnt waste money buying systems retail
Hey Zinglebarb,
What spec are these machines that you are building for this price? (less than £200)??

Gareth 22-08-2006 13:08
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ebuyer have some for £145 including delivery...

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/89079/rb/21200379089

Features

* Processor: Intel Celeron D 315 (2.26, 533, 256MB)
* Memory: 256MB DDR expandable to 2GB.
* Disk: 40GB 7200Rpm
* 52 X CD-Rom, additional slots available to add more optical drives.
* LAN 10/100
* ASROCK/ ECS Intel 845GV chipset with built-in 64 MB Intel Extreme graphics
* Audio on board incl. Front Pannel Audio
* 6x USB 4 Rear - 2 front
* PARRAREL Port
* SERIAL Port
* Game MIDI Port
* External bays: 2 x 3.5, 2 x 5.25
* Expansion slots: 2X PCI, 1XAMR
* PS/2 Keyboard and Optical Mouse
* Linux
* Windows Drivers Provided (Fully Compatible with Windows XP Home/Pro)
* Open office
* Software Included
* AntiVirus Software; Audio Player
* Warranty: 1 year RTB 48 hour response time though eSys Global Services.

Flobajob 22-08-2006 13:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
ebuyer have some for £145 including delivery...

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/89079/rb/21200379089

Features

* Processor: Intel Celeron D 315 (2.26, 533, 256MB)
* Memory: 256MB DDR expandable to 2GB.
* Disk: 40GB 7200Rpm
* 52 X CD-Rom, additional slots available to add more optical drives.
* LAN 10/100
* ASROCK/ ECS Intel 845GV chipset with built-in 64 MB Intel Extreme graphics
* Audio on board incl. Front Pannel Audio
* 6x USB 4 Rear - 2 front
* PARRAREL Port
* SERIAL Port
* Game MIDI Port
* External bays: 2 x 3.5, 2 x 5.25
* Expansion slots: 2X PCI, 1XAMR
* PS/2 Keyboard and Optical Mouse
* Linux
* Windows Drivers Provided (Fully Compatible with Windows XP Home/Pro)
* Open office
* Software Included
* AntiVirus Software; Audio Player
* Warranty: 1 year RTB 48 hour response time though eSys Global Services.
Add a proper operating system and a reasonable monitor and the price will double ;)


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