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slimshady 25-11-2003 19:23

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee
I suspect the DNS isn't entirely the problem - I've added the DNS servers shown in this thread, and it still doesnt work!

However I'm now using a proxy server in the US somewhere and low an behold I can browse. :grind:

My guess is the transparent proxies NEED NTLs DNS to be working, so it doesn't matter what DNS you have set on your own PC.

Can anyone confirm this?


100 points to that man, your spot on thats why even if you have specified another dns or have your own dns. If you traffics being cached (which most peoples is) then the web/proxy/traffic server is going to be doing its DNS lookups using the NTL caching DNS clusters. So you will find that thinks that aren't affect by the traffic server (FTP is an example) will probably work ok.

slimshady 25-11-2003 19:26

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b
NTL have their own link across the Atlantic to a New York peeing point, not sure if it uses TAT-14 or not. A number of transit providers have been affected though, above.net/uu.net/mfnx.net being one of them, along with Level 3 and others.

Do they???? I though they did when we had the mae-east and mae-west peering routers? but i thought they got scraped a while ago, I believe most of our peering is done in the UK with Sprintlink, Above.net and Cable and Wireless forming some of the points and then the transit points at London (linx), Amsterdam and Paris.

slimshady 25-11-2003 19:29

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
Any chance of ntl trying to route through sirius?

thought Sirius was the link between the uk and ireland?

handyman 25-11-2003 19:32

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.google.akadns.net [216.239.37.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms xxxxxxxxxxxxx
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms xxxxxxxxxxxx
3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.ntl.com [XXX.XXX.
XXX.XX]
4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms midd-lam-1-s207-0.inet.ntl.com [62.254.92.121]
5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms midd-t2core-a-pos45.inet.ntl.com [213.106.237.29
]
6 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms lee-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.89]
7 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms lee-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.186]
8 15 ms 31 ms 16 ms man-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.193]

9 <10 ms 16 ms <10 ms ycr2-so-3-0-0.Manchester.cw.net [208.175.252.89]

10 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms bcr2-so-3-0-0.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.209.201]

11 94 ms 93 ms 110 ms dcr1-loopback.Washington.cw.net [206.24.226.99]

12 93 ms 110 ms 93 ms bhr1-pos-10-0.Sterling2dc3.cw.net [206.24.238.38
]
13 140 ms 110 ms 109 ms csr11-ve240.Sterling1dc2.cw.net [216.33.98.146]

14 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms 209.225.34.218
15 125 ms 94 ms 109 ms 216.239.48.94
16 93 ms 94 ms 94 ms 216.239.37.247
17 94 ms 125 ms 93 ms 216.239.37.99

Trace complete.

where the hell is that trace going

zaax 25-11-2003 19:37

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
the dns's work :) Thanks

dieselking 25-11-2003 19:49

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Help please

My dad is the main computer and is connected by ethernet to the STB. I am on a network to his PC through an ethernet hub. I can get onto the net, he can't since about 6.30. He has tried all sorts of servers on the Robin Walker list. Any ideas?

slimshady 25-11-2003 19:58

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
........where the hell is that trace going

Out via Cable and Wireless to the US?

handyman 25-11-2003 20:04

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slimshady
Out via Cable and Wireless to the US?

never noticed it go that way before thats all.

Does anyone know why I have a dial-up customer on a proxy thats getting .coms fine although all bb customers cannot?

slimshady 25-11-2003 20:08

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
never noticed it go that way before thats all.

Does anyone know why I have a dial-up customer on a proxy thats getting .coms fine although all bb customers cannot?

Well the first point it is that with routing depends whether you go out of the a side or the b side core at the pops site so like midd-t2core-a or midd-t2core-b as to which backbone side u end up on and ultimately which peering partner your traffic goes to...

Your dial-up customer maybe they have a proxy specified or maybe their dialed into a pop site thats got the traffic servers turned off or something??? - mind u dial-ups just slow - i'm on it tonight and yet my mate on cable modems are going - its slow its broken etc....

just a side note..next time you run a trace you might wish to cover up the details of the midd-lam1-xxxx.inet.ntl.com and its IP as its possible to work out what leased line that refers to (if you have access the routers of course) ;)

downquark1 25-11-2003 20:16

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
1 Attachment(s)
Handy - I get that trace going to london then to washingtonhttp://forum.nthellworld.co.uk/attac...tachmentid=363

downquark1 25-11-2003 20:27

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Got a full trace to apple.com


Quote:

7
*******
213.206.128.53
sl-bb22-lon-14-0.sprintlink.net
London, UK
*
30
*x-*********
Sprintlink UK

8
*******
144.232.9.163
sl-bb20-nyc-2-0.sprintlink.net
New York, NY, USA
-05:00
144
**-x----****
Sprint SPRINT-INNET9

9
*******
144.232.18.226
*-***********************************
...
********
115
**-x---*****
Sprint SPRINT-INNET9

10
*******
12.123.3.57
tbr1-p010401.n54ny.ip.att.net
New York, NY, USA
-05:00
128
**-x---*****
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

11
*******
12.122.10.2
tbr1-cl1.cgcil.ip.att.net
Chicago, IL, USA
-06:00
119
**-x-*******
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

12
*******
12.122.10.6
tbr1-cl1.sffca.ip.att.net
San Francisco, CA, USA
-08:00
214
***-x------*
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

13
*******
12.122.2.245
gar1-p370.sc1ca.ip.att.net
Santa Clara, CA, USA
-08:00
198
***-x------*
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

14
*******
12.124.34.38
*-***********************************
...
********
232
***--x---***
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT

15
*******
17.112.8.11
*-***********************************
...
********
184
***-x--*****
Apple Computer, Inc. APPLE-WWNET

16
*******
17.112.153.31
a17-112-153-31.apple.com
*-**********************
********
189
***-x--*****
Apple Computer, Inc. APPLE-WWNET

17
*******
17.112.152.32
www.apple.com
*-**********************
********
184
***-x-******
Apple Computer, Inc. APPLE-WWNET



Roundtrip time to www.apple.com, average = 184ms, min = 163ms, max = 247ms -- Nov 25, 2003 9:19:44 PM

Tezcatlipoca 25-11-2003 20:28

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
I've tried using those alternate DNS addresses given by Downquark earlier.

Works...a bit. I can get to more websites now, but there are still some that don't work. PLus MSN & XBox Live still won't work. :(

PS: Could someone please tell me the IP address of https://www.hushmail.com ? :)

downquark1 25-11-2003 20:31

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca
I've tried using those alternate DNS addresses given by Downquark earlier.

Works...a bit. I can get to more websites now, but there are still some that don't work. PLus MSN & XBox Live still won't work. :(

PS: Could someone please tell me the IP address of https://www.hushmail.com ? :)

Here:
65.39.178.11

Which DNS did you use? - I think the first set I posted may be faulty.

try these
195.40.1.250
195.40.0.250

th'engineer 25-11-2003 20:36

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1
Here:
65.39.178.11

Which DNS did you use? - I think the first set I posted may be faulty.

try these
195.40.1.250
195.40.0.250

They work says th'eng using them

BTW is the e-mail team on the dns servers now :smokin:

handyman 25-11-2003 20:38

Re: MERGED - Connection problems in Bromley
 
http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/casa/marti..._new_small.gif

so whats gone off exactly?


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