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Hugh 10-05-2026 15:11
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215197)
I'm not too fussed about 'emissions' produced - especially when numerous volcanoes are throwing tons of crap into the atmosphere all year round - but I am bothered about the Electricity and Water needed to keep the places operational. I wonder if the 'plans' include a roof covered with solar panels LOL
https://royalsociety.org/news-resour...es/question-3/

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In nature, CO2 is exchanged continually between the atmosphere, plants and animals through photosynthesis, respiration, and decomposition, and between the atmosphere and ocean through gas exchange. A very small amount of CO2 (roughly 1% of the emission rate from fossil fuel combustion) is also emitted in volcanic eruptions. This is balanced by an equivalent amount that is removed by chemical weathering of rocks.

Carth 10-05-2026 18:13
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It's just stupid in my view.

We're building large concrete boxes full of computers just to store the data the big Tech Boys are continually harvesting.

Published in Nov 2025: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ngs/cbp-10315/

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Data centres currently consume around 2.5% of the UK’s electricity. The sector’s electricity consumption s expected to rise four-fold by 2030.
Those electric cars may not be a good idea :D


edit: @Hugh - I guess those volcanoes are no problem then, let's just concentrate on cars & cows ;)

Paul 10-05-2026 19:07
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215219)
I guess those volcanoes are no problem then, let's just concentrate on cars & cows ;)
The widely quoted figure for livestock emissions is 14.5% globally, which is quite a chunk.
Other estimates range between 12% and almost 20%, compare that to the UK (in total) which is < 1%.

Sephiroth 10-05-2026 19:13
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Let's not concentrate on cows. Steak, milk, cream, leather coats.

OLD BOY 11-05-2026 18:35
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36215225)
The widely quoted figure for livestock emissions is 14.5% globally, which is quite a chunk.
Other estimates range between 12% and almost 20%, compare that to the UK (in total) which is < 1%.
We’ll just ignore the fact that animals have lived on this planet for a very long time, including during and before the little ice age.

Carth 11-05-2026 18:59
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215269)
We’ll just ignore the fact that animals have lived on this planet for a very long time, including during and before the little ice age.
It's all just a clever ploy to turn us all into vegetarians . . . so we will need much much more land for growing crops for food and oils . . and we will get the land by decimating even more ancient forests for it . . which won't help anything :D

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 19:01
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215273)
It's all just a clever ploy to turn us all into vegetarians . . . so we will need much much more land for growing crops for food and oils . . and we will get the land by decimating even more ancient forests for it . . which won't help anything :D
So, what about the carrots?

Paul 11-05-2026 19:40
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36215269)
We’ll just ignore the fact that animals have lived on this planet for a very long time, including during and before the little ice age.
Not really sure what point you are trying to make here ?

There were probably less livestock animals then, plus even if the number was exactly the same then, as noted, it would only have been about 15 to 20 % of current emissions, which would not really be an issue.

I'm sure even the Greens would be happy with a drop emissions to about 20% of what they are now.

Carth 12-05-2026 01:23
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215275)
So, what about the carrots?
I wasn't going to mention the carrots because then I'd have to mention the loft being converted into a large indoor rabbit hutch. It was either Rabbit or Chicken for the meat supply, and rabbits breed like . . well . . rabbits ;)

Itshim 12-05-2026 06:39
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Zach is in trouble again. Yet another l,m sorry, this time council tax . Starting the think an old saying needs up dating . He who can does, he who can't becomes an MP

Carth 12-05-2026 09:38
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It seems to me that being 'forgetfull' is one of the requisites for a role in politics

OLD BOY 12-05-2026 11:43
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36215277)
Not really sure what point you are trying to make here ?

There were probably less livestock animals then, plus even if the number was exactly the same then, as noted, it would only have been about 15 to 20 % of current emissions, which would not really be an issue.

I'm sure even the Greens would be happy with a drop emissions to about 20% of what they are now.
The whole idea is totally absurd. The greatest folly of the century (so far).

Mr K 12-05-2026 12:27
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36215171)
I still think part of the problem is that no one is honest about the challenges the country faces and the trade-offs that need to be made. It's easy for people to be cynical about politics and believe populist policies from the Greens and Reform if they think there are easy ways to fix the problems in the country that successive governments have just decided not to do.

The lack of real growth since 2008 is killing us.
Best post on this thread. Folks are deluded that changing leaders or parties changes anything. How many PMs since Brexit? Everything else is partisan mud slinging, or those that want power thrmselves but will have the same issues and the same failure .

Ageing non working population, increasing demand on public services, but we dont want to pay. An economy that has flatlined since Brexit. We want cheap labour to do the jobs we cant be arsed to do, but dont want immigrants. We want ever more from the NHS, but again not pay extra for it. The buck stops with the electorate, who always blame everybody and anything else. More change , more chaos, more populists, who certainly can't deliver, but they don't care about that..

Sephiroth 12-05-2026 13:48
Re: Local Elections 2026
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36215322)
Best post on this thread. Folks are deluded that changing leaders or parties changes anything. How many PMs since Brexit? Everything else is partisan mud slinging, or those that want power thrmselves but will have the same issues and the same failure .

Ageing non working population, increasing demand on public services, but we dont want to pay. An economy that has flatlined since Brexit. We want cheap labour to do the jobs we cant be arsed to do, but dont want immigrants. We want ever more from the NHS, but again not pay extra for it. The buck stops with the electorate, who always blame everybody and anything else. More change , more chaos, more populists, who certainly can't deliver, but they don't care about that..
We have to go back at least one layer further. We want cheap prices and business responds with cheap labour to deliver that whilst maintaining profits.

We want more from the NHS because we need more from the NHS, collectively.

To get more from the NHS, we need a government that supports economic growth and doesn't piss money away on excessive benefits.

So, it comes back to government competence.

Itshim 13-05-2026 06:11
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Don't worry need more people working. So raise minimum wage , increase NI , tighten workers rights, all great moves well done labour. Didn't hear that money markets are worse now than under Liz . That worked out well( Bloomberg)


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