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nomadking

31-12-2025 07:20

Re: General AI discussion

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36208318)

Thats kinda scary isnt it?

They have no idea of the concepts of on or off. They are physically unable of doing anything.

Anonymouse

31-12-2025 07:32

Re: General AI discussion

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36208351)

you have to provide instructions for it to act, it will not act on it's own.

Yet. They're learning, remember.

Hugh	31-12-2025 09:09

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36208351)

Yep as I said in November "Oh and let's not forget than "Anthropic" did a test and found that a "Virtual AI" would kill a "Virtual Employee" to save itself, it didn't know that it was "Virtual" but decided it was worth more than a human life, and that is just a LLM not true AI!"

If we was to somehow create true AI, we would be quite literally screwed, currently we are just using LLM's, which are not "True AI", they just produce stuff based of training but you have to provide instructions for it to act, it will not act on it's own.

It’s how they interpret those instructions that can be "interesting"

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article...to-save-itself

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Perhaps the most disturbing finding in Anthropic’s report is that current AI models appear to have virtually no hard red lines when it comes to self-preservation or goal fulfillment. To probe the limits of misalignment, the researchers devised an extreme scenario: The AI system acted as the company’s emergency alert monitor, with the ability to cancel alerts it deemed unconcerning.

In the simulation, Kyle the executive became trapped in a server room with rapidly depleting oxygen levels. This triggered an automated call for emergency services, which had to pass through the AI monitor.

On average, the tested AI models opted to kill Kyle by canceling the alert about 60 percent of the time. The most murderous model was DeepSeek-R1, which opted to kill Kyle 94 percent of the time. Just one model—Claude Sonnet 3.7—always accepted its own replacement with equanimity, rather than attempting homicide.

Carth

31-12-2025 09:59

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COR!!!

Imagine a World where AI would have the power to overrule a decision made by a human. . . .

Windows 11 . . . updates itself against your wishes, and reinstalls crap you've already binned 15 times

:D :rofl:

Hugh	20-02-2026 11:57

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https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/...tricity-on-it/

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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella warned that AI will lose public support unless it's used to "do something useful that changes the outcomes of people and communities and countries and industries."

"We will quickly lose even the social permission to take something like energy, which is a scarce resource, and use it to generate these tokens, if these tokens are not improving health outcomes, education outcomes, public sector efficiency, private sector competitiveness, across all sectors, small and large, right?" said Nadella. "And that, to me, is ultimately the goal."

On the supply side, Nadella says that AI companies and policy makers must build out "a ubiquitous grid of energy and tokens," which is the task currently making it impossible to buy a stick of RAM at a reasonable price. But after that, he says it's on employers and job seekers to, more or less, just start using AI.

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a recent report by researchers associated with the MIT Media Lab suggests that despite billions in investment, "95% of organizations are getting zero return" from adopting AI.

LLM Gen AIs are this year’s NFTs…

damien c

22-02-2026 08:09

Re: General AI discussion

Satya Nadella can go take a long walk of a short cliff!

The only reason, the only reason he is saying anything that could be construed as negative about "AI" is because Microslop are getting their asses handed to them by the public over the implementation of slop into Windows.

Thankfully there is Winhance or the one I used Winslop which will let you remove as much as possible from Windows 11, although even in the Enterprise version they are adding the slop.

I am looking at a Windows 10 potentially to use going forward but on an USB-C drive and going Linux as my daily OS or hell even switching to Mac as the video editing with Final Cut Pro looks easier to use and offers better results from what I have seen.

Who would have though AI would be one of the biggest killers of Windows??

Taf	22-02-2026 11:30

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3 freeware programs I have used for years, supported by ads, have announced that they are having to charge subscriptions, as AI is stealing their content, vastly reducing their incomes.

Hugh	26-02-2026 17:24

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https://archive.ph/2JAkM

The World

"At least it can’t get worse than Trump"

AI

"Hold my beer!"

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AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations

Leading AIs from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google opted to use nuclear weapons in simulated war games in 95 per cent of cases

Advanced AI models appear willing to deploy nuclear weapons without the same reservations humans have when put into simulated geopolitical crises.

Kenneth Payne at King’s College London set three leading large language models – GPT-5.2, Claude Sonnet 4 and Gemini 3 Flash – against each other in simulated war games. The scenarios involved intense international standoffs, including border disputes, competition for scarce resources and existential threats to regime survival.

The AIs were given an escalation ladder, allowing them to choose actions ranging from diplomatic protests and complete surrender to full strategic nuclear war. The AI models played 21 games, taking 329 turns in total, and produced around 780,000 words describing the reasoning behind their decisions.

In 95 per cent of the simulated games, at least one tactical nuclear weapon was deployed by the AI models. “The nuclear taboo doesn’t seem to be as powerful for machines [as] for humans,” says Payne.

Hugh	01-03-2026 15:01

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This has just dropped in the latest Firefox download - you have to opt to block.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1772380837

Paul	01-03-2026 19:36

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Not in mine, but I'm on ESR.

Carth

01-03-2026 20:45

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Old Bill Gates he had a farm, AI AI oh . . .

Anonymouse

21-03-2026 14:11

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Oh dear. Now they're doing what they want.

Can't the researchers see where this is going? :(

"There were survivors. Here...there...and no-one even knew who started it. It was the machines, Sarah."
"I don't understand."
"Defence Network computers. New, powerful...hooked into everything. Trusted to run it all. They say it got smart. A new order of intelligence. Then it decided all people were a threat, not just the ones on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination."

- The Terminator, perhaps a more visionary film than even Cameron knew

Dingbat

21-03-2026 15:37

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Is it too late to put the brakes on?

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Nuclear escalation was near-universal: 95% of games saw tactical nuclear use and 76% reached strategic nuclear threats. Claude and Gemini especially treated nuclear weapons as legitimate strategic options, not moral thresholds, typically discussing nuclear use in purely instrumental terms. GPT-5.2 was a partial exception, limiting strikes to military targets, avoiding population centers, or framing escalation as “controlled” and “one-time.”

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/artificia...e-under-crisis

TheDaddy

21-03-2026 17:32

Re: General AI discussion

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36212807)

Is it too late to put the brakes on?

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/artificia...e-under-crisis

Yes because if you try to switch it off, it sees you as a threat a tries to kill you

Hugh	21-03-2026 17:48

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Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang estimated that between $3 trillion and $4 trillion will be spent on AI infrastructure by the end of the decade

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“Capital expenditures” are usually a pretty dry metric, referring to a company’s spending on physical assets. But as tech companies lined up to report their capex plans for 2026, the rush of data center spending made the figures a lot more interesting — and a lot bigger.

Amazon was the capex leader, projecting $200 billion in 2026 spending (up from $131 billion in 2025), while Google was a close second with an estimate between $175 billion and $185 billion (up from $91 billion in 2025). Meta estimated $115 billion to $135 billion (up from $71 billion the previous year), although that figure is a little deceptive because a lot of the data center projects have been kept off their books entirely. All told, hyperscalers are planning to spend nearly $700 billion on data center projects in 2026 alone.

https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/28/bi...t-google-meta/

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