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1andrew1 14-01-2025 06:05

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189303)
Was it actually illegal ?
If so, why wasnt he prosecuted ?

We don't have enough information here hence the 'if' in my post. It could be seen as harassment. As to why he was not prosecuted - we know many crimes are not prosecuted for a multitude of reasons.

Russ 14-01-2025 06:51

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
From that link:

“And if you’re really interested in transparency and democracy, Jaymey, tell the people of Ongar why you were expelled from the Conservative Party and jumped ship.

“The reason is you sent an unsolicited picture of your private parts, which is a criminal offence.”

It isn’t a court statement but he hasn’t denied it.

1andrew1 14-01-2025 07:57

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Reform voting intentions just 1% behind Labour.
https://news.sky.com/story/reform-wi...itics-13286697

Itshim 14-01-2025 10:59

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189306)
From that link:

“And if you’re really interested in transparency and democracy, Jaymey, tell the people of Ongar why you were expelled from the Conservative Party and jumped ship.

“The reason is you sent an unsolicited picture of your private parts, which is a criminal offence.”

It isn’t a court statement but he hasn’t denied it.

Follow most political thinking ignore it and it will go away. Much like labours policy on the economy :shocked:

Mr K 14-01-2025 12:41

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189307)
Reform voting intentions just 1% behind Labour.
https://news.sky.com/story/reform-wi...itics-13286697

In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.

1andrew1 14-01-2025 13:29

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189319)
In terms of electoral seats they are far behind and always will be whilst we have our wonderful electoral system and a divided right wing.

That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

To date, he's been very keen to put a clean line between his political parties and the BNP. He's also not supported Tommy Robinson to any great extent; compare his considered approach with that of Musk and other lesser-informed right-wingers.

It was interesting briefly watching the Reform UK Conference in Surrey on YouTube last week. The comments were flooded with supporters berating the Party for not coming out in whole-hearted support for Tommy Robinson. I suspect that Farage knows he'll still have these supporters backing him though.

Farage needs to keep his party as clean as possible if he's going into an electoral pact with the Conservative Party and potentially power in the next election. If that means falling out with Musk and foregoing Musk's money and influence then so be it. Farage understands how our electoral system works and Musk understands how space rockets work. But not vice versa.

I'm afraid that Cameron could well have opened Pandora's box.

Mr K 14-01-2025 17:15

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189322)
That's why I think Farage will do a deal with the Conservative Party.

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It might not be his deal to make.
Even Reform members are now seeing Farage for what he is. i.e. out for himself, and no real convictions about anything. Hence the number of councillors that have resigned.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0lz8xn8zd8o

1andrew1 14-01-2025 17:22

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189340)
It might not be his deal to make.
Even Reform members are now seeing Farage for what he is. i.e. out for himself, and no real convictions about anything. Hence the number of councillors that have resigned.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0lz8xn8zd8o

To be fair, that's old news and at this stage can be attributed to growing pains. Don't underestimate the man and his Party.

1andrew1 15-01-2025 14:26

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
This, however is not old news but probably still growing pains if we're kind.

Quote:

Pimlico Plumbers founder Charlie Mullins announces he will stand for Reform UK - but Farage blasted for 'recruiting arch-Remainer'

Pimlico Plumbers founder Charlie Mullins has announced that he will stand for Reform UK after a personal request by Nigel Farage - sparking a heated row between two of the party's former top brass.

Speaking to TalkTV this morning, Mullins was probed on whether he was looking to become an MP - and said he'd "start with [being] a local councillor, and see how it goes from there".

He added: "I've been asked if I'd like to do it by Nigel, and yeah - why not? Anything to get Labour out and get Reform in, I think!"

Mullins suggested he'd run somewhere "local" like Lambeth, Bermondsey, Kensington and Chelsea in London - where he "knows the area and knows the people".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...2ea51f9f&ei=15

papa smurf 15-01-2025 15:20

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189391)
This, however is not old news but probably still growing pains if we're kind.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...2ea51f9f&ei=15

Didn't he quit the UK to live in Spain

and on a personal note i think he's a nob

thenry 15-01-2025 15:43

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I read wrong, Charlie Muslims. Not sure if it's by mistake :erm:

Russ 17-01-2025 11:34

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Reform failed in both council by-elections yesterday.

They’ve won just 7 council seats from 179 by-elections since the General Election.

They have just 53 out of 20k councillors across the UK.

Impressive stuff….

Paul 17-01-2025 15:41

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Very impressive. :rofl:

That said, I wont be attaching a hugh amount of importance to it.
Peoples voting for council seats seems less linked to party - at least around here.
We have a number of independents who got elected on who they are, not what party they were in (or not in).

Russ 17-01-2025 16:11

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Council elections certainly aren’t the b all and end all by any stretch but it does pretty much put the notion of this whole new ‘groundswell’ for Reform in to perspective.

Chris 17-01-2025 17:10

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189504)
Council elections certainly aren’t the b all and end all by any stretch but it does pretty much put the notion of this whole new ‘groundswell’ for Reform in to perspective.

First Past the Post elections require a party to achieve a concentration of local support in order to win. That’s extremely difficult for an insurgent party in a Westminster constituency but slightly less challenging in a council ward. That’s how the BNP managed to win some temporary success picking up seats in certain parts of England 15-20 odd years ago.

If Reform is going to have any sort of genuine breakthrough, local council seats is where it’ll be evident first. If they’re challenging and yet not winning, well then they’re not doing very well.


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