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denphone 04-08-2024 16:44

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36180506)
Those rioting amd disturbing behaviour really is an abhorrent and disgusting act. It's very embarrassing too.

Indeed it is far right thuggery and those doing it should be face the full force of the law.

Sirius 04-08-2024 16:47

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I think they should allow the military to support the police. The military know how to deal with Neandertals like this. I was involved in riots in NI back when i was in the military and we found baton guns were very good at pushing back a crowd when it got beyond the point the police could deal with. I expect this to escalate to the point where the Neandertals start throwing petrol bombs at the police.

jfman 04-08-2024 18:01

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Fundamentally none of them will take Starmer’s threats seriously. About two weeks ago it was how we were going to have to release prisoners after 40% of their sentences.

There’s not enough police, not enough capacity in the courts system and not enough prison space. Undoubtedly there will be higher profile, lower hanging fruit. However the mob will likely continue with impunity for some time yet.

Mr K 04-08-2024 19:17

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36180512)
Indeed it is far right thuggery and those doing it should be face the full force of the law.

Or chop their gonads off, which would be quicker, cheaper and more effective.

Pierre 04-08-2024 19:21

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There’s definitely idiot thuggery involved, and that masks the genuine concern many ordinary people have in this country about immigration. It also gives the government an out, to be able to dismiss the unrest as far right thuggery and not have address the underlining issues driving it.

A massive peaceful protest about immigration would be so much more powerful and not give the government anywhere to hide.

So the violent contingent of these protests are pig thick on every level.

Stephen 04-08-2024 19:26

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36180513)
I think they should allow the military to support the police. The military know how to deal with Neandertals like this. I was involved in riots in NI back when i was in the military and we found baton guns were very good at pushing back a crowd when it got beyond the point the police could deal with. I expect this to escalate to the point where the Neandertals start throwing petrol bombs at the police.

Literally said the same thing to my wife the other night. Get the army in and sort the lot of them out

mrmistoffelees 04-08-2024 19:37

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36180516)
Fundamentally none of them will take Starmer’s threats seriously. About two weeks ago it was how we were going to have to release prisoners after 40% of their sentences.

There’s not enough police, not enough capacity in the courts system and not enough prison space. Undoubtedly there will be higher profile, lower hanging fruit. However the mob will likely continue with impunity for some time yet.

I hear the bibby Stockholm is available

Paul 04-08-2024 19:39

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Time to get out the tear gas and plastic bullets. :erm:

Sirius 04-08-2024 20:22

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36180529)
Time to get out the tear gas and plastic bullets. :erm:

Indeed. Make it a 2 way range and see how they like it.

denphone 04-08-2024 20:40

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36180529)
Time to get out the tear gas and plastic bullets. :erm:

Don't forget the water cannons as well.

Sirius 04-08-2024 20:44

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36180535)
Don't forget the water cannons as well.

It might be the first wash some of them have had in months ;)

Chris 04-08-2024 20:47

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36180535)
Don't forget the water cannons as well.

Well, Boris bought some old ones from Germany and did them up, but Call-me-Dave wouldn’t let him use them in London. Then Sadiq sold them for scrap. So even if the legal framework was in place for their use in England (it isn’t), there aren’t any available.

I’m not going to pretend it wouldn’t be entertaining so see some of these idiots washed down the drain though.

Paul 04-08-2024 21:10

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Well apparently we would not have to go far to get some.
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Water cannons designed for riot control are still made in the United States and the United Kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cannon

Damien 04-08-2024 21:16

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36180513)
I think they should allow the military to support the police. The military know how to deal with Neandertals like this. I was involved in riots in NI back when i was in the military and we found baton guns were very good at pushing back a crowd when it got beyond the point the police could deal with. I expect this to escalate to the point where the Neandertals start throwing petrol bombs at the police.

Bringing in the army is a massive step. They do not do civilian policing and this might make matters worse. We only need the army for this if it gets really out of control to the point there is no alternative.


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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36180516)
Fundamentally none of them will take Starmer’s threats seriously. About two weeks ago it was how we were going to have to release prisoners after 40% of their sentences.

There’s not enough police, not enough capacity in the courts system and not enough prison space. Undoubtedly there will be higher profile, lower hanging fruit. However the mob will likely continue with impunity for some time yet.

Starmer was DPP during the London riots and his approach was that they would go for strong convictions to send a message this isn't acceptable. I think the same will happen here.

These people will regret their actions.

The prisons are a concern but the point of releasing those prisoners was to make space for violent offenders. Some more non-violent offenders will be released if needed to make room for these thugs.

There is a strong public interest in these people getting the full force of the law applied against them and I think there will be a political will to ensure that the law isn't held back by the prisons crisis.

jfman 04-08-2024 21:52

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I agree on the public interest, but it'll blow over before anyone notices the outcomes, subject to getting arrested at all.

That said enough of them seem to be on suitably high quality video to be looking over their shoulders for some time.

To be a pedant on the new thread title no riots in Scotland yet despite Tommy alleging a stabbing in Stirling was a Muslim. Turns out it wasn't, it's not been confirmed precisely but I'm not even sure it was a random incident.

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The Holiday Inn at Tamworth now has a small fire going as a result of racist thugs responding to a Labour MP dog whistle.


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