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Pierre 12-07-2024 07:14

Re: President Biden
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36179017)
Introducing Zelensky as "President Putin" at NATO not the greatest start to what might be the defining hour of the Biden Presidency.

And he wouldn’t have picked Vice-President Trump, if he didn’t think she was up to the job.

He’s seemed a bit more lucid since the debate, but the cocktail of drugs they’re pumping into him can only do so much.

He struggles when using a teleprompter, when he goes off that anything can happen.

If he gets to the next debate, it’ll be a car crash.

Plus the world media is on notice now, the likes of CNN and MSNBC have been running cover for him for years but can’t any longer, every mis-step will now be highlighted and amplified.

jfman 12-07-2024 08:35

Re: President Biden
 
I do think it’s the fact the media are no longer willing to be part of the charade that’ll will spell the end. CNN in particular are not holding back, despite undoubtedly being complicit in - at a minimum - not questioning things.

The Cabinet last met in October last year. We now know why the Defense Secretary managed to go into hospital for the best part of a week and nobody notice - he doesn’t answer to anyone in the day to day functioning of his job.

Strong rumours of “dozens” in Congress holding back til after NATO to break ranks it’ll be interesting if that comes to pass.

Damien 12-07-2024 10:14

Re: President Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36179019)
And he wouldn’t have picked Vice-President Trump, if he didn’t think she was up to the job.

He’s seemed a bit more lucid since the debate, but the cocktail of drugs they’re pumping into him can only do so much.

He struggles when using a teleprompter, when he goes off that anything can happen.

If he gets to the next debate, it’ll be a car crash.

Plus the world media is on notice now, the likes of CNN and MSNBC have been running cover for him for years but can’t any longer, every mis-step will now be highlighted and amplified.

I am less convinced it's drugs and more that he has good days and bad days. You see this with people who have dementia or Parkinsons. Some days they are bad. Some days they seem fine and you think they're doing better before they say something completely odd. I don't have trouble believing Biden has days where he is perfect lucid, has a command of the facts and can seem fine but then have days like that debate.

1andrew1 12-07-2024 11:19

Re: President Biden
 
I've heard he is great between 10am and 4pm but outside these hours makes mistakes as he did yesterday.

Halcyon 12-07-2024 13:13

Re: President Biden
 
There comes a point where you need to retire and that moment has come!

Most people that age would be retired, yet this is someone we are giving the job of running a country, making worldwide decisions!

I admire his determination to continue but I think even he himself cant see the mistakes he is making. It's time to check in to a retirement home.

1701-e 12-07-2024 15:25

Re: President Biden
 
BREAKING- President Biden calls Rodney Trotter "Dave" in latest gaffe

jfman 12-07-2024 16:41

Re: President Biden
 
The more I think about it, two of his recent “gaffes” aren’t at all. The radio one where he says the first black female Vice President”. He’s running off a list of things that’s merged into one by a lack of pause.

The other being “listen to him” at the end of yesterday. Merely a statement of contempt for Trump.

Itshim 12-07-2024 17:17

Re: President Biden
 
Or will the delegates defie the convention and not select him. They is as far as I know no law saying they have to vote for him.of cause that could be political suicide

jfman 12-07-2024 17:28

Re: President Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36179032)
Or will the delegates defie the convention and not select him. They is as far as I know no law saying they have to vote for him.of cause that could be political suicide

They may not vote for him if they cannot do so “in all good conscience”.

This is being openly discussed on CNN and other outlets. Essentially laying the groundwork for another candidate if he doesn’t volunteer to stand down and a step short of invoking the 25th Amendment.

Maggy 13-07-2024 13:31

Re: President Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36179026)
There comes a point where you need to retire and that moment has come!

Most people that age would be retired, yet this is someone we are giving the job of running a country, making worldwide decisions!

I admire his determination to continue but I think even he himself cant see the mistakes he is making. It's time to check in to a retirement home.

Utter rubbish!I've been making such gaffes all my.Now I'm 71 I see no reason to instantly say I'm not fit to hold any office on age alone.Ridiculous!

Itshim 13-07-2024 16:26

Re: President Biden
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36179040)
Utter rubbish!I've been making such gaffes all my.Now I'm 71 I see no reason to instantly say I'm not fit to hold any office on age alone.Ridiculous!

The only argument I would put forward, and this is for debate not a point of view ( well maybe it is) as the likes of me( close to 74) won't be around much longer do we have the right to decide what will affect the world in 5 or so years time:rolleyes:

Paul 13-07-2024 16:48

Re: President Biden
 
His age alone is not the issue, the fact he seems senile is.

Kursk 13-07-2024 17:04

Re: President Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36179040)
Utter rubbish!I've been making such gaffes all my.Now I'm 71 I see no reason to instantly say I'm not fit to hold any office on age alone.Ridiculous!

You do know you missed a word out in your post don't you Maggy? ;)

Russ 13-07-2024 17:19

Re: President Biden
 
Whereas it is not looking good for Biden’s cognitive functions, Trump has also made plenty of gaffs relating to names, places etc

America’s political stuff is there to deal with but I’m of the firm view that it is *essential* to keep Trump out of the White House. I think Harris would be the popular vote especially because of how it would drive the right wingers bananas to have a black woman as their president.

In terms of “who’s in charge”, well obviously it’s the incumbent President. However, who actually makes the decisions? I’ve always believed it to be the leader’s advisors. This would especially have been the case with Trump who was (and still is) too thick to run a country on his own merit. And yes in the interests of balance I also think Obama’s advisors made the big decisions during his terms.

TheDaddy 13-07-2024 20:41

Re: President Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36179048)
His age alone is not the issue, the fact he seems senile is.

And the fact the other guy is a convicted felon, massive liar and a bit rapey isn't an issue, don't get how one is all that's talked about and the other is ignored, it's not even whataboutery, I just plain don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36179051)
Whereas it is not looking good for Biden’s cognitive functions, Trump has also made plenty of gaffs relating to names, places etc

America’s political stuff is there to deal with but I’m of the firm view that it is *essential* to keep Trump out of the White House. I think Harris would be the popular vote especially because of how it would drive the right wingers bananas to have a black woman as their president.

In terms of “who’s in charge”, well obviously it’s the incumbent President. However, who actually makes the decisions? I’ve always believed it to be the leader’s advisors. This would especially have been the case with Trump who was (and still is) too thick to run a country on his own merit. And yes in the interests of balance I also think Obama’s advisors made the big decisions during his terms.

Decent people surround themselves with other Decent people, crooks and conmen surround themselves with similar although in donnies case no one who worked with him last time wants to work with him again, okay I get it in Pences case, they did want to hang him after all


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