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Pierre 25-09-2023 22:44

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36160674)
Maybe, but they'll have to be pretty certain of a conviction for the CPS to decide to prosecute. Certainly, it's more likely as more people come forward.

They have to.

They successfully charged Rolf Harris, and Stuart Hall. I don’t know the details of those cases but they must have been “historical” allegations, but still were able to gain two convictions, in crimes much older than Brand’s.

So I would expect if there is a case against, he would face charges.

If not, you would have to question this whole episode.

Damien 26-09-2023 07:52

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36160676)
They have to.

They successfully charged Rolf Harris, and Stuart Hall. I don’t know the details of those cases but they must have been “historical” allegations, but still were able to gain two convictions, in crimes much older than Brand’s.

So I would expect if there is a case against, he would face charges.

If not, you would have to question this whole episode.

I don't know how much evidence they have but certainly, the more people that come forward, the more likely they have a case.

jfman 26-09-2023 09:17

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
Considering we’ve had one recent major conviction on circumstantial evidence the likelihood is now - and in numbers - there’s more confidence in the likelihood of a conviction.

Damien 26-09-2023 10:03

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
As I think Chris said it'll be about constructing a similar pattern from several independent women. One accusor's word against the accused might not be beyond a reasonable doubt.

Several accusors, unknown to each other, with similar stories/details, may push it beyond a reasonable doubt.

ianch99 26-09-2023 10:49

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
If he did rape/sexually assault a number of women in the period being discussed and there is now not enough evidence to prosecute, should these women remain silent?

Chris 26-09-2023 12:22

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36160689)
If he did rape/sexually assault a number of women in the period being discussed and there is now not enough evidence to prosecute, should these women remain silent?

No - absent a criminal prosecution the laws of defamation exist to restrain egregious lies and give the one accused some remedy. But those who allege things against Brand can keep talking, and the newspapers can keep printing, as long as they’re confident they can meet the lower burden of proof required in a civil court (the balance of probabilities, rather than beyond reasonable doubt). Russel Brand is not without means and can take legal action to silence them if he chooses. I suspect he won’t.

Pierre 26-09-2023 20:50

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36160704)
Russel Brand is not without means and can take legal action to silence them if he chooses. I suspect he won’t.

Without making a judgement on innocence.

I think Brand will be advised to not pursue libel, as that would invite more scrutiny. Whereas, there’s a good chance this will soon run out of oxygen and with his loyal following he will be free to carry on.

With allegations, staying as allegations and not going further, it will soon be yesterdays news.

Sephiroth 27-09-2023 17:13

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
To hell with Brand. A nasty piece of self-centred work who is getting his come-uppance, imo.

jfman 27-09-2023 17:45

Re: Russell Brand accused of sexual assault by four women
 
GB News could uncancel him with their soon to become available hosting position.


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