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peanut

25-06-2023 10:42

Re: Missing Titanic Sub

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36154628)

12 men have walked on the moon, and about 6 have been to the Mariana Trench which is 7 miles down.

Now astronauts know that they are sitting on a bomb which could go bang on the pad and still are willing to go.

So I would say that the risk of an implostion and depths below the ocean is a similar risk, but they would still do it.

One difference is the actual risk assessment of the equipment. NASA has the greatest minds and engineers in the world. I think I'd rather risk sitting in a rocket, than a sub that's built with bits and pieces and without any safety certificates also known to be a death trap. They'll always be risks, but it's minimising those risks. In this case, the sub was sub-standard.

I'm not sure I'd agree with calling those that go down as explorers, to me they're just paid up tourists doing something different.

Sephiroth

25-06-2023 12:17

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36154628)

And therein lies the fallacy. Sinking in an uncertified vessel, made of incompatible materials for that purpose, likely to implode at the seams, ignoring expert advice is not adventurous. It has proved fatally stupid.

denphone

25-06-2023 12:23

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36154632)

James Cameron who knows a bit about these things summed it up perfectly..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65994707

Dude111

27-06-2023 16:46

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Originally posted by Jaymoss
This would never happen to me the same as I would never die from mountain climbing or bungie jumping or parachuting out of a plane.

Well I hope you mean you wouldnt ever do such things......... Neither would I Jay.....

Somehow I gotta wonder why people would want to go down and see a ship that sank?? It wasnt a joke,it wasnt on display..... Let them rest in peace!!

I dunno.......

1andrew1

27-06-2023 20:05

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36154632)

Careful, Seph. BoJo will label you a lefty!

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BORIS JOHNSON: Lefties sneer. But those brave souls on the submarine died in a cause - pushing out the frontiers of human knowledge - that's typically British and that fills me with pride

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lls-pride.html

I'm with you on this one, Seph. The passengers fatally had more money than sense.

Paul	27-06-2023 23:25

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36154738)

I'm with you on this one, Seph. The passengers fatally had more money than sense.

How much money did the teenage boy have then ?

ianch99

28-06-2023 09:51

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36154747)

How much money did the teenage boy have then ?

Given his father was worth $360m, probably quite a lot.

Can't see what point you are trying to make here? They were wealthy, entitled idiots as are those who obsess over this, in objective terms, non-story.

Paul	28-06-2023 19:10

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36154755)

Can't see what point you are trying to make here? They were wealthy, entitled idiots as are those who obsess over this, in objective terms, non-story.

You mean you dont want to, seems that, as usual, you cant see past that big green streak, some people are better off than you, get over it.

jfman

28-06-2023 23:25

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Presumed human remains found in the wreckage according to US Coast Guard :(

Chris

29-06-2023 07:54

Re: Missing Titanic Sub

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36154826)

Presumed human remains found in the wreckage according to US Coast Guard :(

Emphasis on ‘presumed’. As many with relevant experience have been gently explaining since this tragedy occurred, the physics of an implosion at that depth are unforgiving in the extreme. :(

ianch99

29-06-2023 09:18

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36154809)

You mean you dont want to, seems that, as usual, you cant see past that big green streak, some people are better off than you, get over it.

Some are better off but not that many.

Earlier this month, this happened:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/18/a...hnk/index.html

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Hundreds of Pakistanis dead in Mediterranean migrant boat disaster, official says

Who knew? Who cared?

jfman

29-06-2023 11:30

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36154828)

Some are better off but not that many.

Earlier this month, this happened:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/18/a...hnk/index.html

Who knew? Who cared?

I’m not 100% sure what your point is. There’s always a bigger disaster, there’s always more human suffering. At some point you draw a line and watch a repeat of Midsomer Murders on ITV3. Or sit watching blokes hit/kick around a ball. Or pay attention to less worthy news stories.

The “national” news in Scotland today has a pay dispute in a single pub.

ianch99

29-06-2023 12:32

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36154835)

I guess my point is the media obsession with certain events that, with a wider objective perspective, do not deserve that degree of airtime, coverage, etc. These events normally correlate with those involved having wealth, fame, etc. The point here is that this event has so much coverage when others that were more significant in human terms had relatively none.

Sephiroth

29-06-2023 17:08

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The obsession was the "are they/are they not" drama.

Damien

29-06-2023 18:46

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And the fact it was at the site of the Titanic.

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