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Damien 12-12-2022 07:17

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141619)
I’m well aware of the numbers, Hugh, doesn’t alter the fact Dems still only have 50 seats, Sinema, just gone, won’t always side with Democrats, Manchin, usually has a habit of voting against his own side, that’s their majority gone. Either way, they’ve lost control of the House.

They already had independent senators who were considered part of their block. Nothing realistically changes since Sinema, like Manchin, didn't always side with the Democrats. It's just a change in her official designation. They still won't be able to pass anything if both of those rebel just as they did before but they still maintain control of the House since Manchin never tended to rebel on critical matters like a Supreme Court Justice or anything going after Biden.

Sinema would need to switch to the Republicans for them to lose the House officially.

Mick 13-12-2022 13:41

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141639)
They already had independent senators who were considered part of their block. Nothing realistically changes since Sinema, like Manchin, didn't always side with the Democrats. It's just a change in her official designation. They still won't be able to pass anything if both of those rebel just as they did before but they still maintain control of the House since Manchin never tended to rebel on critical matters like a Supreme Court Justice or anything going after Biden.

Sinema would need to switch to the Republicans for them to lose the House officially.

Didn’t say anything about Dems losing control of Senate, it’s immaterial anyway because the Dems don’t have the House.

But if Sinema doesn’t go along party lines and Manchin, Manchin votes with Republicans, dems lose their majority. Cackling VP Harris, can’t use her deciding vote, But again, Biden’s legislative agenda can’t proceed without the control of the House.

1andrew1 13-12-2022 13:53

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Does anyone think now that Biden won't fufill his full term? Now would be the time for him to step down but that's not looking likely.

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 14:40

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He's like any politician. Loves the big stage. That's why Cameron voted Remain.

TheDaddy 13-12-2022 16:01

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141777)
He's like any politician. Loves the big stage. That's why Cameron voted Remain.

Really, that's the reason :rofl:

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 16:21

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36141782)
Really, that's the reason :rofl:

Why else do most politicians want to get to the top (apart from the corrupt ones)?

Think about it. Is there an altruistic main party leader in the UK? Take the Wee Skankie in Scotland - strutting the EU corridors a few years ago - she wants a seat at the high table. Cameron was the same; what would top being PM of a sovereign country? Being at the top table with other leaders and wielding power there.

So, why wouldn't Biden want to be there for the same reason? Any altruism he might possess is dwarfed by the power fix he gets from the power he wields.


Damien 13-12-2022 16:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141785)
Why else do most politicians want to get to the top (apart from the corrupt ones)?

Think about it. Is there an altruistic main party leader in the UK? Take the Wee Skankie in Scotland - strutting the EU corridors a few years ago - she wants a seat at the high table. Cameron was the same; what would top being PM of a sovereign country? Being at the top table with other leaders and wielding power there.

So, why wouldn't Biden want to be there for the same reason? Any altruism he might possess is dwarfed by the power fix he gets from the power he wields.


Sturgeon wants Scottish Independence. Everything she does suggests to me that's her genuine goal.

Sephiroth 13-12-2022 18:09

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141786)
Sturgeon wants Scottish Independence. Everything she does suggests to me that's her genuine goal.

My insights into politicians' psyche goes deeper than the hurdle of acquiring top spot. I've been an astute watcher of the televised EU Council gatherings and you can see the "little" Presidents etc loving the limelight. The past Lithuanian president was an example. Then there's the strutting done by the big wheels.

The love it and Sturgeon wants just that. Must be since on independence alone Scotland would be headed for disaster.

Trouble is, the mass of 16 year olds who will be voting know diddly squat about anything important beyond their family.


Hugh 13-12-2022 18:29

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36141793)
My insights into politicians' psyche goes deeper than the hurdle of acquiring top spot. I've been an astute watcher of the televised EU Council gatherings and you can see the "little" Presidents etc loving the limelight. The past Lithuanian president was an example. Then there's the strutting done by the big wheels.

The love it and Sturgeon wants just that. Must be since on independence alone Scotland would be headed for disaster.

Trouble is, the mass of 16 year olds who will be voting know diddly squat about anything important beyond their family.


tbf, that could be Observer Bias…

Russ 15-12-2022 14:01

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Just when you thought he couldn’t be any more bigger of a tw*t

https://news.sky.com/story/america-n...ocial-12768463

Paul 15-12-2022 15:40

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LOL, perhaps hes announcing his retirement, at 76 its time he did.

Damien 15-12-2022 16:03

Re: U.S Midterms - Democrats hold Senate, Republicans take House
 
Is he selling Truth Social maybe?

Or is he going to pull out of the race and back DeSantis?

Hugh 15-12-2022 16:31

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141942)
Is he selling Truth Social maybe?

Or is he going to pull out of the race and back DeSantis?

Trump's conservative base deserting him for DeSantis - poll

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63967234

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Most Republican-leaning voters would prefer Florida's governor over Donald Trump as their 2024 presidential nominee, according to a survey.

By a 56%-33% margin, conservative voters picked Governor Ron DeSantis over the former president, who formally launched his new campaign last month.

Mr K 15-12-2022 16:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141949)
Trump's conservative base deserting him for DeSantis - poll

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63967234

Fake news, I should think....

Hugh 15-12-2022 17:01

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36141935)
LOL, perhaps hes announcing his retirement, at 76 its time he did.

This is the big announcement - he’s selling NFTs/Digital Lottery Tickets.

You buy the $99 NFT to enter into a sweepstakes for a *chance* to win a one-on-one meeting

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