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Mick 11-05-2022 23:40

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BREAKING: WASHINGTON, May 11 (Reuters) - Legislation to make abortion legal throughout the United States was defeated in the U.S. Senate on Wednesday, amid solid Republican opposition.

Democrats had sought to head off an impending Supreme Court opinion that is expected to overturn the nearly 50-year-old Roe v. Wade decision that established the national right to abortion. Wednesday's effort was a protest gesture that never stood much chance of success.

With 49 votes in support and 51 against, the "Women's Health Protection Act" was 11 short of the 60 votes needed to be fully debated in the 100-member Senate.

All 50 Republicans voted to block the bill. They were joined by one Democrat, Senator Joe Manchin. - Reuters.

Damien 12-05-2022 14:07

Re: Draft Supreme Court opinion overturning (Roe v Wade) abortion leaked
 
Was never going to pass.

Still surprised the filibuster remains, I wonder how the vote would have gone if a simple majority were needed? I.E Joe Manchin voting No is more consequential for him if it's the decided vote on abortion.

Mick 24-06-2022 17:11

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BREAKING: U.S Supreme Court overturns Roe V Wade that gave women right to legalised abortion. More to follow…

nomadking 24-06-2022 17:17

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126173)
BREAKING: U.S Supreme Court overturns Roe V Wade that gave women right to legalised abortion. More to follow…

There isn't a US wide ban on abortion.:rolleyes:
It is now in the hands of the individual states.

Mick 24-06-2022 17:31

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36126174)
There isn't a US wide ban on abortion.:rolleyes:
It is now in the hands of the individual states.

Of which half are set to impose bans immediately or the next few days. 25 States is still a big part of a nation.

nomadking 24-06-2022 17:40

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126175)
Of which half are set to impose bans immediately or the next few days. 25 States is still a big part of a nation.

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"We therefore hold that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion... and the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives," the judgement read.
The Left and Liberals are much too keen on imposing their will on people, regardless of what any electorate think.
The irony is that this decision couldn't arise until somebody decided to challenge restrictions in a particular state.
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The Supreme Court had been considering a case, Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organization, that challenged Mississippi's ban on abortion after 15 weeks.

Mick 24-06-2022 17:58

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BREAKING Missouri becomes first US state to ban abortion after Supreme Court ruling: attorney general - AFP News Agency

And so it begins…

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NEW: Former U.S President Barack Obama condemned the U.S. Supreme Court ending constitutional protection.

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BREAKING: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton declares that abortion is now illegal in Texas as it becomes the 2nd State to outlaw it straight after Highest Court of the land, reverses R v W.

1andrew1 24-06-2022 18:03

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36126176)
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The Left and Liberals are much too keen on imposing their will on people, regardless of what any electorate think.
The irony is that this decision couldn't arise until somebody decided to challenge restrictions in a particular state.

Can you not see the irony in the right curtailing the freedom of an individual regardless of what decision that individual wishes to make?

BenMcr 24-06-2022 18:05

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36126176)
regardless of what any electorate think.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion...n-on-abortion/

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Views on abortion, 1995-2022
While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past several years. Currently, 61% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 37% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.

nomadking 24-06-2022 18:10

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126181)
Can you not see the irony in the right curtailing the freedom of an individual regardless of what decision that individual wishes to make?

There's more than one individual involved.
The court can't choose what it's going to rule on. It can only decide on cases brought before it. If State imposed restrictions hadn't been challenged, they couldn't rule either way on the issue.

BenMcr 24-06-2022 18:11

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36126183)
If State imposed restrictions hadn't been challenged, they couldn't rule either way on the issue.

Most of the recent abortion laws passed in Republican states were specifically designed to be challenged so that this would end up in the Supreme Court.

nomadking 24-06-2022 18:15

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36126182)

And that's in each and every state is it? Or is it yet another instance of certain states trying to impose their will on the others.
Individual states already had certain restrictions and the electorate in those states would seem happy with those allowed by Roe v Wade.

Mick 24-06-2022 18:15

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126173)
BREAKING: U.S Supreme Court overturns Roe V Wade that gave women right to legalised abortion. More to follow…

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has ended the nation’s constitutional protections for abortion that had been in place nearly 50 years in a decision by its conservative majority to overturn Roe v. Wade. Friday’s outcome is expected to lead to abortion bans in roughly half the states.

The decision, unthinkable just a few years ago, was the culmination of decades of efforts by abortion opponents, made possible by an emboldened right side of the court that has been fortified by three appointees of former President Donald Trump.

Both sides predicted the fight over abortion would continue, in state capitals and in Washington, and Justice Clarence Thomas, part of Friday’s majority, called on the court to overturn other high court rulings protecting same-sex marriage, gay sex and the use of contraceptives.

The ruling came more than a month after the stunning leak of a draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito indicating the court was prepared to take this momentous step.

It puts the court at odds with a majority of Americans who favored preserving Roe, according to opinion polls.

Alito, in the final opinion issued Friday, wrote that Roe and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 decision that reaffirmed the right to abortion, were wrong the days they were decided and must be overturned.

“We therefore hold that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion. Roe and Casey must be overruled, and the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives,” Alito wrote, in an opinion that was very similar to the leaked draft.

Authority to regulate abortion rests with the political branches, not the courts, Alito wrote.

Joining Alito in the 5-3 vote were Thomas and Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett. The latter three justices are Trump appointees. Thomas first voted to overrule Roe 30 years ago.

Chief Justice John Roberts would have stopped short of ending the abortion right, noting that he would have done no more than uphold the Mississippi law at the heart of the case, a ban on abortion after 15 weeks. He wrote that there was no need to overturn the broad abortion precedents to rule in Mississippi’s favor.

Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan — the diminished liberal wing of the court — were in dissent.
https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...source=Twitter

heero_yuy 24-06-2022 18:15

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Return of the backstreet abortionists with the consequent health issues for women. :rolleyes:

TheDaddy 24-06-2022 18:21

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Wonder what rights they'll go after next, can't imagine they're massive fans of gay marriage or contraception


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