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TheDaddy

30-01-2021 02:32

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36068755)

You may refer to me as "your highness" in future. :D

Need a gender in there, how about 'her royal highness' in future :)

Paul	30-01-2021 02:35

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

Nope, & nope.

Maggy

30-01-2021 10:06

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36068717)

Well two things here:

1. I am happy to refer to people on an individual basis how they wish to be addressed. Even how stupid and totally incongruous to the English language it may be, and I will address people how they wish to be addressed on an individual basis.

2. I will not however be “told” how address another person. I will not conform to compelled speech. Secondly what are these other “genders”? Outside of the male/female/trans I’ll Stretch to Bi ( although that is a sexuality) what are the definitions of the other 94 genders?

A hundred of them? That's asking a lot..Especially on social media when you really have no idea who is on the other side of the screen.

figgyburn

30-01-2021 12:38

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

[QUOTE=Sephiroth;36068204][COLOR="Blue"]There are some genders capable of engendering (!) ambiguity:

Bigender 

Gender Fluid

Genderqueer

https://young.scot/get-informed/nati...identity-terms

:wtf:

:banghead:

Mad Max

30-01-2021 21:40

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

Genderbender.

tweetiepooh

01-02-2021 13:44

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Gender references must get really confusing in languages that have gender specific verbs. I really wouldn't want to sort that one out.
But things are a bit daft if gender is simply based on how you identify. How does another person know and does it really, really matter. As long as it polite and respectful and not obviously wrong just take it on the chin and put it down to ignorance.

Stuart

01-02-2021 15:41

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

I think people should feel free to sleep with whoever they wish, as long as it is legal and consensual. As such, I do have gay friends. Indeed, back in the early 90s, my best friend at work was a lesbian who was slightly older than me who, on reflection, actually looked like Harry Potter with bleached hair. I also have transgender friends and always respect their chosen title.

In short, I believe people can be nice or nasty regardless of age, biological sex, gender, sexual persuasion or any one of a number of arbitrary distinctions people can chose from.

Yet, there are those who have told me I am part of the problem, because by asking people to be nice to each other, I am apparently ignoring their differences. I am not at all. I don't believe *any* difference beyond practical should be used for discrimination.

I think to progress as a race, we should be moving past assigning labels to people for arbitrary reasons.

That said, I can see J.K. Rowling's points, and read the essay she produced explaining her view. By pushing Trans women so much, we are marginalising actual biological women who, are, after all, often recipients of prejudice in much the same way Trans women are.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36068204)

There are some genders capable of engendering (!) ambiguity:

Bigender 

Gender Fluid

Genderqueer

https://young.scot/get-informed/nati...identity-terms

I'm a bit confused as to the definition of "Ze/Hir", which are apparently gender neutral alternatives to "He/Her" for those who are uncomfortable with the term "They". If you want alternatives that aren't linked to a specific gender, why have two? Why not have one term?

downquark1

01-02-2021 16:10

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 36068996)

There are different schools of thought in all this stuff. The older notion of transexuality is that they want to switch to the opposite gender because they are very uncomfortable in the current situation. Then there's the school of thought that want anyone to be able to make up their own gender and their own pronouns, which means there is essentially no limit to the number of genders.

There is no definition other than you are suppose to use these pronouns when referring to them.

I would generally try and just use "they" as this is ridiculous.

papa smurf

01-02-2021 16:12

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I call everyone mate.

Sephiroth

01-02-2021 16:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36069002)

I call everyone mate.

That could become awkward, Squire.

papa smurf

01-02-2021 16:28

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36069005)

That could become awkward, Squire.

I offer 2 options

1 like it
2 lump it

Paul	01-02-2021 20:01

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 36068996)

I think to progress as a race, we should be moving past assigning labels to people for arbitrary reasons.

A persons sex is not arbitrary, its nature.
On the other hand, someone randomly saying they "identify" as whatever, is arbitrary.

Angua

02-02-2021 08:22

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 36068996)

There seems to be little wish to understand or empathise with the gender they are trying to be. That is where the gap lies, with any dissent getting the label TERF

Pierre

02-02-2021 13:51

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 36069053)

There seems to be little wish to understand or empathise with the gender they are trying to be. That is where the gap lies, with any dissent getting the label TERF

if you're trying to be anything other than Male or Female, then what are you trying to be?

papa smurf

02-02-2021 14:48

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36069097)

if you're trying to be anything other than Male or Female, then what are you trying to be?

something that gets lots of attention.

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