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papa smurf 27-11-2019 21:14

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36018460)
One way or another he's a gonner....

Bet Corbyn is really looking forward to Trump's pre-election visit to the UK. Plenty of Boris/Trump photo opportunities ! ;)

After his next full term.

Mr K 27-11-2019 21:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36018497)
After his next full term.

Jail term??

Mick 27-11-2019 22:06

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36018509)
Jail term??

A Sitting President cannot be indicted he has to have committed a crime first which we have been waiting for nearly 4 years to hear that he actually committed one, the last Democrat hoax cleared him - do catch up.

Last Warning - I am getting pissed off with the run around these certain topics get, time after time, if people have nothing new to add to the discussion and it just going to be the same old rubbish posted, then I see no point in them being open.

1andrew1 05-12-2019 15:34

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Impeachment proceedings now going ahead - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

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The California congresswoman told Thursday morning's news conference: "The facts are uncontested. The president abused his power for his own political benefit at the expense of our national security, by withholding military aid and a crucial Oval Office meeting in exchange for an announcement for an investigation into his political rival."
Her statement comes a day after she held a behind-closed-doors meeting on impeachment with her fellow Democrats and asked them: "Are you ready?"
The lawmakers responded with a rousing "Yes", according to the Associated Press news agency.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50671570

papa smurf 05-12-2019 15:43

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36019282)
Impeachment proceedings now going ahead - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50671570

It's all smoke and mirrors combined with pointless political posturing,nothing is going to happen to Trump.

1andrew1 05-12-2019 19:36

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36019283)
It's all smoke and mirrors combined with pointless political posturing,nothing is going to happen to Trump.

Sounds like there's enough evidence there to make a go of the impeachment. I think he'll swerve jail though.

papa smurf 05-12-2019 19:58

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36019303)
Sounds like there's enough evidence there to make a go of the impeachment. I think he'll swerve jail though.

The Senate now has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and two independents who usually vote with the Democrats. Conviction and removal of a president would require a two-thirds majority. A conviction seems unlikely. Should all 100 senators vote, at least 20 Republicans and all the Democrats and independents would have to vote against him.

Mick 05-12-2019 20:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36019303)
Sounds like there's enough evidence there to make a go of the impeachment. I think he'll swerve jail though.

There is zero evidence, third hand witnesses who heard what someone else said, who heard what someone else said. Pathetic. It’s a Democrat hoax impeachment that will ultimately fail in the Senate where it matters. The Democrats have just likely, handed Trump his second term.

1andrew1 05-12-2019 21:00

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36019307)
The Senate now has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and two independents who usually vote with the Democrats. Conviction and removal of a president would require a two-thirds majority. A conviction seems unlikely. Should all 100 senators vote, at least 20 Republicans and all the Democrats and independents would have to vote against him.

Yes, minimum two-thirds majority required in the senate to remove him from office, so this is unlikely. But he could be formally impeached if a simple majority of the House votes in favour.

Info per https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...-says-11878824

Hugh 05-12-2019 21:43

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36019308)
There is zero evidence, third hand witnesses who heard what someone else said, who heard what someone else said. Pathetic. It’s a Democrat hoax impeachment that will ultimately fail in the Senate where it matters. The Democrats have just likely, handed Trump his second term.

Except for those first-hand witnesses, of course...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...hment-hearings
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First-hand witnesses describe key Trump-Zelensky call on Day 3 of impeachment hearings

The third day of public impeachment hearings produced damaging new testimony against President Donald Trump, including for the first time from witnesses who were listening on the pivotal July 25 phone call between him and the president of Ukraine.

Mick 05-12-2019 22:08

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Except nothing. They are not first hand witnesses. :rolleyes:

1andrew1 05-12-2019 22:16

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36019326)
Except nothing. They are not first hand witnesses. :rolleyes:

But if they were listening in on the call - which the PBS article confirms they were - then surely they meet the criteria of being first-hand witnesses?

Mick 05-12-2019 22:39

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They cannot be first hand witnesses, only the bloody whistleblower is, which they have not testified.

A person who witnesses a 2nd hand conversation, is not a first hand witness. That is utter Bollocks. It’s hearsay evidence.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36019318)
Yes, minimum two-thirds majority required in the senate to remove him from office, so this is unlikely. But he could be formally impeached if a simple majority of the House votes in favour.

Info per https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...-says-11878824

Just House impeachment is like a bucket of warm piss, pointless. The pathetic Democrats, are just using their grip on the part of the House they own, it will fail in the Senate.

How far left these illiberal muppet Democrats have gone will be shown.

Stephen 05-12-2019 22:40

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But as most of their given evidence confirms what they all said then it must be true. Even the call transcript. If they listened in on the call, or were in the room at times of conversation then they were first hand witnesses.

Giuliani and others that were named as being part of it will need to be called up and give their side of it.

Mick 05-12-2019 22:50

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The Whistleblower(if they actually exist), is the only first hand witness out of handful of about dozen or so, all the current witnesses who have testified, who the Democrats have currently called for public hearings, are people who’ve heard a 2nd hand conversation. A conversation that even Ukraine’s own President said Trump did not do what he is being accused of. This is just a partisan hoax, the 2nd from the Democrats because their first one failed, in the form of Mueller.


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