Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35944264)

You can blame politicians but we elect them and their policies. Seems to be the result of the general xenophobia in the British public

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35944280)

So do the databases exist? Or is it mainly down to physical paperwork, eg cards in a basement. Then there is the time it takes to send and receive letters and for anything to be processed.

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35944284)

Agreed, but that's the thing isn't it.

If you bring it rules to say that landlords, employers etc need to check that someone has the right to live here, then surely you need to also create a thing that can be checked?

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35944286)

And in order to do that you would have to get everybody to prove their status on paper. Which is what this is all about in the first place(allegedly). Strange that the issue has been around for decades potentially for ANYONE, but only now are certain people kicking up a fuss.

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35944290)

The issue has been around, but I think that the requirement to check up front has only happened in the last decade or so.

But again, that's my point. If you change the rules so that the checks are required, surely you'd make sure that the records are accurate and easily available before you do it, and not after?

Unless of course you don't think through the full impact of the change and are doing it for good press and an 'easy win'.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35944293)

How do you build a central government database on these issues?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35944294)

If you're controlling who is and isn't allowed to be in the UK, how do you do that without a database of that information?

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35944301)

National ID Card

OMG who said that?

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35944301)

National ID Card

OMG who said that?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35944294)

If you're controlling who is and isn't allowed to be in the UK, how do you do that without a database of that information?

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35944253)

Quote:
The onus is on individuals to prove they were resident in the UK before 1 January 1973, the date the 1971 Immigration Act came into force. However, a key clause from 1999 legislation, which had provided longstanding Commonwealth residents with protection from enforced removal, was deleted from the 2014 Immigration Act. The government did not announce the removal of this clause, nor did it consult on the potential ramifications.


THIS is the bigger problem, nevermind LAB & CON squabbling about who did what. THIS is the issue, and it's a worrying one,. it shows a lack of due diligence and transparency on all sides.

With legislation like that slipping in, we're all farked. Where else has stuff been quietly erased...

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35944278)

Surely it should be about as long as it takes someone to check my Driving Licence for points or disqualifications i.e. no time at all.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35944293)

1996 Asylum and Immigration Act
I'm sure many other restrictions have been around for DECADES.

How do you build a central government database on these issues? Do you get people to prove it now or continuously collect data for the next 100 years before you can use the database.:rolleyes:

Would you like people to have access to your bank account on the basis of a name and a date(eg date of birth or date of arrival)?

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35944376)

2009 was before 2010.