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1andrew1 12-04-2018 08:59
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35943408)
There is a old saying Mr K and that is "Act in haste, repent at leisure" and one would be wise to heed it.
So far, Theresa May seems the most level-headed when compared to Russia and the US. Let's hope she continues this way.

heero_yuy 12-04-2018 09:30
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Quote from Mr K:


Seems we're trying to rush in on dodgy evidence again, have we learnt nothing? The pictures of the 'attack' come from Islamic Militants. The former UK ambassador to Syria thinks it's faked.
Let the investigators do their stuff, and then take action if proved. We're being taken for mugs, and a shoot first think/tweet later President who sees it as opportunity to big himself up.
In this case I find myself in agreement Mr K. It is quite possible that this has been staged by IS as a last desperate throw of the dice to get the US and allies to knock Assad back a bit. IS have no qualms in killing anybody: Friend, foe or civillian, and by the most brutal methods.

If the agent proves to be Chlorine or something similar anybody with a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry could have produced and released it.

Hugh 12-04-2018 09:52
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35943407)
Seems we're trying to rush in on dodgy evidence again, have we learnt nothing? The pictures of the 'attack' come from Islamic Militants. The former UK ambassador to Syria thinks it's faked.
Let the investigators do their stuff, and then take action if proved. We're being taken for mugs, and a shoot first think/tweet later President who sees it as opportunity to big himself up.
Not sure the White Helmets (Syrian Civil Defence) and SAMS (Syrian American Medical Sevices) can be classed as Islamic Militants...

https://www.sams-usa.net/press_relea...-attack-douma/
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SAMS has documented 43 casualties with similar clinical symptoms of excessive oral foaming, cyanosis, and corneal burns. Civil Defense volunteers were unable to evacuate the bodies due to the intensity of the odor and the lack of protective equipment. The reported symptoms indicate that the victims suffocated from the exposure to toxic chemicals, most likely an organophosphate element.

Following the chemical attack, the target site and the surrounding area of the hospital receiving the injured were attacked with barrel bombs, which hindered the ability of the ambulances to reach the victims.
Why won’t the Syrians or the Russians let independent World Health Organisation inspectors in, if the claims are false?

btw, the “former U.K. Ambassor to Syria" - is that the same person who is a a director of the British Syrian Society, which was founded by Fawaz Akhras, President Assad’s father-in-law, and is closely linked to the regime, frequently accused of acting as its mouthpiece in the west.

papa smurf 12-04-2018 09:53
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We have just had a chemical weapons attack on our own soil and did not throw missiles at the alleged perpetrator ,so why would we attack Syria for an alleged attack on their own soil .

Mick 12-04-2018 12:11
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BREAKING: French President Emmanuel Macron says he has proof Chemical Weapons were used by the Syrian Government.

Stephen 12-04-2018 13:56
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43740626
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France's President Emmanuel Macron says he has "proof" that the Syrian government attacked the town of Douma with chemical weapons last weekend.
He said he would decide "in due course" whether to strike Syria.
Western states are thought to be preparing for missile strikes in response to the alleged attack.
In Russia, Syria's main military ally, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov urged against "any steps which could lead to an escalation of tensions".
US President Donald Trump, who said on Wednesday that missiles were "coming", has now tweeted that he "never said when".

Hugh 12-04-2018 18:00
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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/38...ndred-russians
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Pompeo confirms 'a couple hundred' Russians killed in Syria

Secretary of State nominee Mike Pompeo pointed Thursday to the U.S. military killing “a couple hundred” Russians in Syria as evidence of the Trump administration’s toughness on Moscow.

“A handful of weeks ago, the Russians met their match. A couple hundred Russians were killed,” Pompeo told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during his confirmation hearing.

The comment from Pompeo, currently the CIA director, appears to the first time a U.S. official has publicly confirmed that Russians were killed as part of the U.S. strike in Deir el-Zour province, and the first time an administration official has cited the incident to defend President Trump's Russia stance.

In February, U.S. forces struck what the Pentagon described as pro-Syrian regime forces after an “unprovoked” attack on the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces.

At the time, the Pentagon repeatedly declined to confirm the composition of the pro-regime forces involved in the incident.

But reports citing U.S. unnamed officials said that “scores” of Russian mercenaries were killed and injured. Russia later conceded that “several dozens” of its citizens were injured and an unspecified number killed, though it insisted its military was not involved at all.

pip08456 12-04-2018 19:12
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There's a hell of a difference between Russian military personnel and Russian mercenaries, just as the would be a difference between UK or US military and mercenaries.

Mercenaries are paid a hell of a lot more to begin with!

Hugh 12-04-2018 19:21
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35943449)
There's a hell of a difference between Russian military personnel and Russian mercenaries, just as the would be a difference between UK or US military and mercenaries.

Mercenaries are paid a hell of a lot more to begin with!
That’ll be the same "mercenaries" that fought in Ukraine...

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...-official-says

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31794523

pip08456 12-04-2018 19:52
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Not in my book.

Hugh 12-04-2018 20:17
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35943454)
Not in my book.
You may find this of interest.

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/02/1...ractors-syria/

Basically, the PMCs are just a mask for Russia - they even train on GRU bases.

Hom3r 12-04-2018 20:43
Re: Updated: Imminent U.S Missile Strike on Syria
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35943424)
We have just had a chemical weapons attack on our own soil and did not throw missiles at the alleged perpetrator ,so why would we attack Syria for an alleged attack on their own soil .
I would say the numbers involved.

The UK ones were specifically targeted, in Syria it's kill anyone.

pip08456 12-04-2018 21:18
Re: Updated: Imminent U.S Missile Strike on Syria
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35943457)
You may find this of interest.

https://thedefensepost.com/2018/02/1...ractors-syria/

Basically, the PMCs are just a mask for Russia - they even train on GRU bases.
As far as I'm concerned if they are not there as official Russian military personnel then they are mercenaries.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-04-2018 21:54
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I simply cannot understand why Britain has to join a war. Its senseless. And could effect this country big time.
The Russians have already said that they will target this country.

When you think - where goes our gas supplies come from - any answers

Hugh 12-04-2018 22:21
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35943469)
I simply cannot understand why Britain has to join a war. Its senseless. And could effect this country big time.
The Russians have already said that they will target this country.

When you think - where goes our gas supplies come from - any answers
Not from Russia...

https://inews.co.uk/news/science/whe...t-from-russia/
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Russia supplies less than 1 per cent of the gas used in the UK, meaning that any move to cut supplies would have little impact on the country’s energy security. While Russia supplies a whopping 37 per cent of the gas used across Europe, only a tiny fraction of that goes to Britain. This means that the political leverage Russia is able to exert by threatening to cut off gas supplies is likely to be far greater among our allies in the EU than in Britain.


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