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Maggy 17-09-2017 15:15
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I think we should limit how much attention we pay to these incidents publicly..it just gives publicity to their cause.

Stephen 17-09-2017 15:25
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Thats a hard thing to limit when its such a big event. People were hurt and worse can happen. Also with Social Media there will always be live videos now from people that were there or close by.

Also ignoring these events in the news will then lead to some folk claiming they are trying to cover it up and deliberatly playing it down.

No win situation really.

Osem 17-09-2017 17:01
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It's common knowledge that the authorities have their eyes on several thousand budding jihadists. I don't see how what Trump said alerts these people any more than that fact does. They'll all be working on the assumption that they may well be being monitored.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35916871)
Thats a hard thing to limit when its such a big event. People were hurt and worse can happen. Also with Social Media there will always be live videos now from people that were there or close by.

Also ignoring these events in the news will then lead to some folk claiming they are trying to cover it up and deliberatly playing it down.

No win situation really.
Nobody's saying don't mention it, but do we really need umpteen reports full of speculation, images of distraught/injured people and statements of the obvious? The media should stick to the facts given by the police and other emergency services there's no need for so much repetition followed by the usual raft of debates about the terror threat when nothing has changed and we're going to be living with this for a very long time. If something different happens then of course cover it and give what new advice we can to the public but there's no need for all this forensic coverage.

4 people died on the M5 yesterday and 3 are still critically ill. We're not being treated to endless coverage and speculation about that, we accept it's part of modern life. We need to get this into perspective and not create more fear and uncertainty than is warranted. The chances of any of us being killed or injured in a terrorist attack is miniscule, far less than going out in our cars.

RichardCoulter 17-09-2017 17:27
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35916616)
I do not agree with a news blackout, people need free flowing information. These incidents are fluid, people need to know what is going on, where to avoid.
True, maybe this is a better option:

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35916651)
We need to never nam the terrorist or group, nor include them in the death/injured figures.
By cutting off the oxygen of publicity they won't gain the 'glory' of what they've done.

Mick 17-09-2017 17:27
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UK Security level is downgraded back to Severe, meaning an attack is 'Highly likely.' Which is what it was at before Friday's attack.

Maggy 17-09-2017 17:34
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35916889)
It's common knowledge that the authorities have their eyes on several thousand budding jihadists. I don't see how what Trump said alerts these people any more than that fact does. They'll all be working on the assumption that they may well be being monitored.

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Nobody's saying don't mention it, but do we really need umpteen reports full of speculation, images of distraught/injured people and statements of the obvious? The media should stick to the facts given by the police and other emergency services there's no need for so much repetition followed by the usual raft of debates about the terror threat when nothing has changed and we're going to be living with this for a very long time. If something different happens then of course cover it and give what new advice we can to the public but there's no need for all this forensic coverage.

4 people died on the M5 yesterday and 3 are still critically ill. We're not being treated to endless coverage and speculation about that, we accept it's part of modern life. We need to get this into perspective and not create more fear and uncertainty than is warranted. The chances of any of us being killed or injured in a terrorist attack is miniscule, far less than going out in our cars.
:clap:

denphone 18-09-2017 10:29
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Arrested suspect named.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ahyah-farroukh

Julian 18-09-2017 11:22
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35916942)
Wow the guanriad parroting a sun article, shows the level that the ailing guanriad has sunk to. :D

denphone 18-09-2017 11:32
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35916948)
Wow the guanriad parroting a sun article, shows the level that the ailing guanriad has sunk to. :D
Its was the first link l saw carrying the said story.:D

Mick 18-09-2017 12:14
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I feel sorry for the elderly couple here. They have took in and fostered hundreds of vulnerable children. Yes it is very sad and bad that it seems two of the refugees they have took in, have betrayed them in such a massive way.

They have received a horrible backlash from ignorant people.

I have seen reports though that the 18 year old who left the bomb, was arrested two weeks ago, so he was known to authorities. Trump appears correct in his tweet.

denphone 18-09-2017 12:19
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35916956)
I feel sorry for the elderly couple here. They have took in and fostered hundreds of vulnerable children. Yes it is very sad and bad that it seems two of the refugees they have took in, have betrayed them in such a massive way.

They have received a horrible backlash from ignorant people.

I have seen reports though that the 18 year old who left the bomb, was arrested two weeks ago, so he was known to authorities. Trump appears correct in his tweet.
Sadly we live in a society where a minority want a instant gratification of blaming someone or some group without any said proof or facts.

Osem 18-09-2017 12:22
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If it turns out that those responsible were refugees it'll be yet more proof of the dangers inherent in admitting large numbers of people into the country when you have little or no real idea who they are, what their motives are or even how mentally ill/scarred they may be (which could of course be through no fault of their own).

It's all very well offering refuge but unless there are safeguards, services, benefits, education, training, jobs etc. put in place we're likely asking for a whole heap of future trouble from people who become radicalised because, rightly or wrongly, they feel badly let down. Even if we do all we reasonably can there'll be those who feel it isn't enough and decide to take revenge in some way and that's aside from any who come here with the sole intention of doing us harm although they're likely to be a very small minority I'd have thought. What the answer to this is God only knows... :shrug:

As regards the host family, yes it is awful that they're being targeted but it'd be even more awful that those they took in and cared for may have had become involved in something so awful and possibly even endangered them.

Mick 18-09-2017 13:42
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ISIS did warn west they would send their soldiers among refugees. It would very difficult to assess who is a genuine refugee and who is not. Most refugees arrive with just the clothes on their back, no documentation or identity.

Damien 18-09-2017 13:57
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I think ISIS just said that for propaganda. Realistically there always seems to be a handful of teenagers at risk of radicalisation either people born here or who've come over as refugees for them to bother with that surely?

pip08456 18-09-2017 14:07
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35916974)
I think ISIS just said that for propaganda. Realistically there always seems to be a handful of teenagers at risk of radicalisation either people born here or who've come over as refugees for them to bother with that surely?
Why not "bother with it"? It's an ideal method of infiltration. They already have radicalised people born here who they can send back as disilllusioned with ISIS (good cover story) or many others who can be inserted into the streams of refugees with ease.

Don't forget they are fighting a war on the west not just other muslims and infiltration and subversion has always been a part of any war.


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