Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

I've been talking to both disabled rights groups I'm involved with and some political contacts none of whom are aware of any coming attack on carer's allowance or major changes to how it operates. You continue to use unsettling rhetoric Richard and so far have given absolutely nothing beyond your interpretation of a process that has been ongoing for many years and has actually helped many carer's. State fact or say nothing because many legitimate benefit claimants live in fear of their benefits being stopped or restricted in someway and it's not acceptable to create threads on something unless you have facts to back it up.

Given how your demanding protection for people online in another thread to act the way you have in this thread towards other members and concerning a very vulnerable group in society has me puzzled.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

I personally think that Carers should get double what they get. My wife is a 24 hour carer for my disabled son. I simply couldn't do. I love my son dearly, but sometimes he drives me nuts.

Any idea of having any sort of discussion is an insult to the disabled. Which is nothing unusual with this bloody government.

I have feelings of hatred towards this government. As my brother in law has had this benefit stopped for the past SIX WEEKS owing to a farcical medical. He was told to look for work DESPITE his GP saying that he cannot work due to medical reasons. And been told that he cannot get any benefit until the result of an appeal - in SIX MONTHS time.So when he asked about survival. They told him tough.

This government will do anything to stop making benefits to the vulnerable

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Good point, yes, it is completely taxable and counted in full for the purposes of means tested benefits.

To receive CA, the person has to care for the person for at least 35 hours a week, so this works out at £1.77 per hour.

If this is exceeded, the hourly rate of pay goes down. I imagine that most carers would not tell a severely disabled person who needs to use the toilet that they cannot as they have already done their 35 hours in the relevant benefit week!

I'm still waiting for details and a copy of the contract awarded to this firm for this new initiative.

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This is the fear of the welfare rights organisations that I've been in contact with Arthur.

I'm lucky enough to be able to pay for my carers privately, yet the Government seeks to penny pinch from the most vulnerable.

If the cuts that the Government want to make come to fruition, it would serve them right if all those in receipt of Carers Allowance were to say that they no longer wanted to carry out this function.

It would cost the Government far, far more than the pittance that carers receive for working long hours.

For a single person over 25, Carers Allowance is currently £62.10, whilst Jobseekers Allowance is currently £73.10.

---------- Post added at 23:56 ---------- Previous post was at 23:30 ----------

Update:

Contract details:

https://www.contractsfinder.service....b-ec6e38c59f10

It looks to be relating to the sick and disabled as well as their carers.

More information here:

https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/20...ns-laboratory/

The DWP seem to be reluctant to talk about this upcoming scheme to legal advocates, so, amongst other things, a Freedom Of Information request has been made.

I understand that the BBC have been briefed about this too.

Because of the attitude of some on here, I have been asked not to give out the contact details of those who can provide legal help and advice for anybody that is called into one of these 'meetings'.

If anybody needs help, please contact me (in confidence) by PM and I will let you have the details if they are genuinely required.

Incidentally, many sick and disabled people now face having their benefits reduced, stopped or delayed.

In the NW area, a charity that I support is now offering a scheme where frozen food can be provided free of charge. For those who need it, a free delivery service is also available.

Again, please contact me (in confidence) by PM if this would help you or somebody that you know and I will give you contact details.

*Priority will be given to those who have had both their DLA/PIP and ESA stopped*

The person asking for help must live in the NW area.

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You've got it in one Rex.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

So still no facts that can be verified just more alarming rhetoric and on that note I'm out the stress levels amongst claimants are already high without unfounded alarmist rubbish like this getting attention.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

I concur, reading the contract it makes cash incentives for people to participate and has confidentiality clauses inserted for each participating party. This Is a classic case of someone jumping to conclusion and getting on their own horse without reading the detail (or worst stirring up trouble for their own pleasure which considering it's with carers of disabled people is quite frankly sick)

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Here's an example of the "evil things" the User Research get up to.
Some of the rules for User Research
From 2012 DWP report on Universal credit. Just to show that user research has been going on for years and is a good idea.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Just so everyone is clear on this, this thread is not closing.
I have removed all the recent off topic and wanna be modersting posts from this thread.

Two warnings have been posted already about the behaviour of people in this thread.
This is the final one from me, defy this one and you will be taking a rest from posting on the site.

Behave like adults, stick to the topic, do not post personal remarks or attacks or anything eles that breaks the site rules.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Please guys, stop slagging each other off. This is a great topic yo discuss.
I know from personnel experience. Not once but twice.
My disabled son has been hit. And also my brother in law. The Tories will always hit the vulnerable. And they will always win as we dont have a strong Labour Party to fight. Withat that **** Corbyn fighting a self destruction button.

This will continue to happen.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

It is not a great topic to discuss Arthur because nothing sinister is going on this is a new company handling a contract in dealing with carer's and all the time this has been running it's been a benefit to carer's not a sinister plot to victimise them. As for slagging off most have asked for some facts to elevate this from one person misinterpreting something they read and so far none has been forthcoming.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

Sorry Arthur, I don't agree. It is surely the responsibility of every parent, person, carer, Government, whomever, to monitor their financial commitment and/or expenditure and to decide whether that commitment/expenditure needs adjusting?

The alternative is irresponsible. Changes are happening to tax-payer funded commitment all the time as I'm sure you would want it to be. You cut your coat according to the cloth.

Without exception.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

It is not "one person" misinterpreting this. There are both individuals and organisations who are worried about the implications of this new initiative and wish to get to the bottom of it.

If don't think that it's wrong to question what the Government of any political colour is doing and why.

We have all seen the spin, but the DWP are refusing to clarify matters or answer questions put to them by legally qualified people who are concerned about this.

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This has nothing to do with any previous interviews that most (all?)* Carers have been to. Those interviews were often 'Work Focussed Interviews' used by the DWP to see if any carers could, at the present time or in the future, do some paid work as well as their caring responsibilities.

Similarly, no disabled people in the 'Work Related Activity Group's (WRAG) are likely to have been to one of these group meetings either.

* As the DWP refuse to enter into the usual dialogue with about this, it cannot yet be verified if anybody has attended these new meeting or not.

The DWP last did this regarding the number of people who had died following sanctions, medical assessments, decisions, policies etc made by them.

If there's nothing sinister about this, why aren't the DWP co-operating with representatives of the disabled community and their carers?

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Leaving the human cost to one side, it is not cheaper for us taxpayers to stop paying (this has been mooted in the past) Carers Allowance and place disabled people into institutional care or have agency nurses paid for by the state.

They were hoping to save money by stopping the miserly payment altogether, whilst carers carried on without any payment whatsoever.

It might have worked with claimants looking after a family member, but this has now hopefully been kicked into the long grass.

Carers do a tremendous job and save this country a fortune every year.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

How many more times.:mad: I've given the quotes from the original link and the DWP. It is purely "user research", that they do all the time to try and improve things. It is only certain people from certain areas(mainly the north-west) that can VOLUNTEER. It is NOT about assessing them for eligibility or anything like that. It's about trying to improve how the system works. They seem to use it to test out online forms.

How is a new system, being tried out at the moment, that aims to really speed up claims for the terminally ill, a bad thing?:confused:

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

The simple answer is that the reluctance of the DWP to enter into a discussion with legally trained professionals about this initiative is raising red flags.

I'm confident that they will eventually have to explain what this is all about to the people that they purport to serve- both the DWP and the Government.

If there is nothing ominous, I doubt that there would be such a wall of silence.

Re: People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.
 

The DWP will not answer questions about something that doesn't exist you don't think they have enough to do and still none of the groups I'm involved with or any of the politicians have heard anything. This is about trying to get in this carer's involved in DWP matters that affect them and to look into streamlining the system of assistance and claim that currently exists and it's an ongoing process that's been around for year's. Disabled people are called into different meetings with the DWP to gauge their reaction and suggestions for future improvements.