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General Maximus 07-06-2016 20:20

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
all hail Cisco :nworthy::nworthy::nworthy::nworthy:

Sephiroth 08-06-2016 07:10

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35841632)
all hail Cisco :nworthy::nworthy::nworthy::nworthy:

It seems so, mon General.

Ignitionnet 26-09-2016 16:35

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
How is this trial running for you Sir Sephiroth?

I noted discussion on DOCSIS 3.1 in this thread. Just FYI Comhem in Sweden have released 1Gb down, 100Mb up via EuroDoCSIS 3.0.

As I've said a few times still a fair bit of mileage in 3.0 :)

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General Maximus 26-09-2016 16:45

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
given that they are trying to get everyone on to shub3's for 200mbits+ it looks like they are trying to keep %channel utilisation down so I imagine they won't want to go above 400mbits without releasing a 32 channel modem and buy that time we would surely be ready for 3.1. Is there any info on which gateway that speed test was done on?

Ignitionnet 26-09-2016 16:47

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Sure. It was one of these and used 24 downstream and 6 upstream channels.

Sephiroth 26-09-2016 17:02

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35860596)
How is this trial running for you Sir Sephiroth?

I noted discussion on DOCSIS 3.1 in this thread. Just FYI Comhem in Sweden have released 1Gb down, 100Mb up via EuroDoCSIS 3.0.

As I've said a few times still a fair bit of mileage in 3.0 :)

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It's the usual VM thing. Dead silence. For a few weeks now I've had one channel (highest frequency) at 64QAM

Upstream bonded channels
Channel ID Frequency(Hz) Mode Power
(dBmV) Modulation Channel Bandwidth(Hz) Symbol Rate (ksps)
6 39400000 ATDMA 44.5 16 qam 6400000 5120
8 25800000 ATDMA 44.5 16 qam 6400000 5120
7 32600000 ATDMA 44.5 16 qam 6400000 5120
5 46200000 ATDMA 44.5 64 qam 6400000 5120

General Maximus 26-09-2016 17:38

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
cool, Netgear again which means it has the potential to come in our direction

Ignitionnet 26-09-2016 18:22

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
It's just a 24x8 DoCSIS 3 gateway, same as the SH 3.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35860605)
It's the usual VM thing. Dead silence. For a few weeks now I've had one channel (highest frequency) at 64QAM

Let's hope they can get it cleaned up and get 64QAM possible across the board. The power is spot on, though, which is good.

Sephiroth 26-09-2016 20:48

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35860626)
It's just a 24x8 DoCSIS 3 gateway, same as the SH 3.

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Let's hope they can get it cleaned up and get 64QAM possible across the board. The power is spot on, though, which is good.

When they did that, the downstream power jumped from -3.5dBmv to +3.5 dBmv. (Upstreasm stayed the same-ish). Ordinarily I'd have said they'd changed the amp in my street cabinet - except that they clearly haven't because it was an overnight reset when that happened.

Kushan 27-09-2016 11:25

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
I've had 1x QAM64 and 1xQAM16 for weeks now:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/09/1.png

Is that a valid/normal configuration or does it indicate a problem somewhere? I mean speeds are fine, so I've not been bothered, it's just unusual to see two channels on different QAM's without there being an issue.

Ignitionnet 27-09-2016 13:10

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
It's a legitimate configuration, but could also indicate problems.

Could be ingress in the 50.5MHz -> 56.9MHz range, there's an amateur radio channel there, or could be using some 16QAM and some 64QAM channels intentionally to reduce load on the upstream optics.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35860648)
When they did that, the downstream power jumped from -3.5dBmv to +3.5 dBmv. (Upstreasm stayed the same-ish). Ordinarily I'd have said they'd changed the amp in my street cabinet - except that they clearly haven't because it was an overnight reset when that happened.

Depending on what you're connected to they may have changed some kit within the hub to connect you to a new Edge QAM and return path line card. Hosted on same CMTS so retaining existing DHCP scope, just CCAP equipment change.

EDIT: Not entirely related but I saw a guy mentioning 20 downstream channels on the Cisco 10k. Yes, possible, but improbable. To go past 10 channels requires installation of a 3 Gb SPA, and as far as I know these have only been used to go to 12 channels to permit release of Homeworks+. VM aren't doing a big investment in these, purchasing the bare minimum in fact, as they are getting shot of the 10ks as part of migration to CCAP. These are being used as an interim solution while issues like power, space and cooling are sorted to make room for the CCAP kit and higher density, dedicated M-CMTS.

People on 20 channels are on E6k or cBR-8 unless there were a very strange set of circumstances that required a very non-standard configuration.

Synthetic 27-09-2016 13:48

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35860714)
I've had 1x QAM64 and 1xQAM16 for weeks now:

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Is that a valid/normal configuration or does it indicate a problem somewhere? I mean speeds are fine, so I've not been bothered, it's just unusual to see two channels on different QAM's without there being an issue.

I had that earlier in the year, got VM out and they confirmed it was a fault affected 300 other properties.... we were experiencing drop outs too though.

However since the fix (only took 2 days!) both went back to 64 and have stayed like that since.

JordanTheToaster 04-10-2016 06:35

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35860723)
It's a legitimate configuration, but could also indicate problems.

Could be ingress in the 50.5MHz -> 56.9MHz range, there's an amateur radio channel there, or could be using some 16QAM and some 64QAM channels intentionally to reduce load on the upstream optics.

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Depending on what you're connected to they may have changed some kit within the hub to connect you to a new Edge QAM and return path line card. Hosted on same CMTS so retaining existing DHCP scope, just CCAP equipment change.

EDIT: Not entirely related but I saw a guy mentioning 20 downstream channels on the Cisco 10k. Yes, possible, but improbable. To go past 10 channels requires installation of a 3 Gb SPA, and as far as I know these have only been used to go to 12 channels to permit release of Homeworks+. VM aren't doing a big investment in these, purchasing the bare minimum in fact, as they are getting shot of the 10ks as part of migration to CCAP. These are being used as an interim solution while issues like power, space and cooling are sorted to make room for the CCAP kit and higher density, dedicated M-CMTS.

People on 20 channels are on E6k or cBR-8 unless there were a very strange set of circumstances that required a very non-standard configuration.

I was wondering why i had 20 channels now I know.

Sephiroth 04-10-2016 15:55

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
In keeping with my topic, I now report for everyone's delectation that 3 of my upstreams are now 64QAM and one is 16QAM.

You'll see the slight upstream noise from the BQM. Just to remind, this is a Hub 3 in modem mode to an ASUS RT-AC68U.

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vm_tech 04-10-2016 17:41

Re: RG41 5: 4 upstream channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanTheToaster (Post 35861655)
I was wondering why i had 20 channels now I know.

Your area was moved over to E6000 a few weeks back :)


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