Originally Posted by DJSADERS (Post 35818877)

I make nearly 28k as a contractor without needing a bonus, the offer i got in-house even with 5 years experience was 18k (starting wage)... i don't know anyone willing to loose 10k to do the same job.

If your trying to say that in-house do this then i want to work on your network lol, as i can guaratee you thats not done on my network, im happy to dig a garden and repair a cable however i cant same the same for some in-house, the repairing of d-sides is left to networks... changing to an unused d-side and reporting the damaged d-side to networks is enough (they are extremely helpful and active), sharing a drop while waiting for a repull if damaged outside of the boundary is a must, however as stated above if damaged in the boundary then either the fix is found and repaired or a new piece of wire from the tee to etb, as a contractor the work is still audited by the same in-house PT's that audit in-house work, and HAS to be of the same quality.
Given a choice i will not be going back to installs ever i would rather be homeless and unemployed than be worked like an animal again, as a faults engineer i have to work with the exact same rules that you in-house guys have to work within, but still for 10hrs more per week with less perks.

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35818806)

The irony of an ISP having trouble hiring in a place called IP-Swi[t]ch.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35818962)

What is this, bad pun Tuesday?

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35818759)

... and for many more of us, an excellent firm of which to be a customer.

Let us hope that the redundancies weed out the twirks.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35867876)

Well your predictions so far Richard are not that good.:)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35868118)

What predictions do you mean? :confused:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35867874)

Let's hope so.

Has anything more been heard about this, I can't find anything online and it's been almost a year?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35868186)

Well there is such a plethora of them it might take me a little while to find them all....

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35868193)

One thing is for sure, they've already cut the numbers of UK support staff. The VM forum team take one week at least to respond. And they still have that wretched offshore call centre despite howling complaints from customers.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35868259)

The process is now over and the new organisation structure in place on 1st November.

Those at risk were free to apply for all available and suitable roles in the company

Originally Posted by DJSADERS (Post 35818877)

I make nearly 28k as a contractor without needing a bonus, the offer i got in-house even with 5 years experience was 18k (starting wage)... i don't know anyone willing to loose 10k to do the same job.

If your trying to say that in-house do this then i want to work on your network lol, as i can guaratee you thats not done on my network, im happy to dig a garden and repair a cable however i cant same the same for some in-house, the repairing of d-sides is left to networks... changing to an unused d-side and reporting the damaged d-side to networks is enough (they are extremely helpful and active), sharing a drop while waiting for a repull if damaged outside of the boundary is a must, however as stated above if damaged in the boundary then either the fix is found and repaired or a new piece of wire from the tee to etb, as a contractor the work is still audited by the same in-house PT's that audit in-house work, and HAS to be of the same quality.
Given a choice i will not be going back to installs ever i would rather be homeless and unemployed than be worked like an animal again, as a faults engineer i have to work with the exact same rules that you in-house guys have to work within, but still for 10hrs more per week with less perks.

Originally Posted by MrIca (Post 35869128)

Surely in house repair techs would earn more than £28k? If not I'll never be working for VM.

Wouldn't in-house repair techs get overtime on top of their basic pay too? Usually direct labour would be on more than contractors. In Openreach direct labour staff earn much more than contractors.

Also, wouldn't you find repairs much more interesting than doing installs day in day out?

Originally Posted by MrIca (Post 35869128)

Surely in house repair techs would earn more than £28k? If not I'll never be working for VM.

Wouldn't in-house repair techs get overtime on top of their basic pay too? Usually direct labour would be on more than contractors. In Openreach direct labour staff earn much more than contractors.

Also, wouldn't you find repairs much more interesting than doing installs day in day out?