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And if it is the public have long memories and don't forget things in a hurry as we all know.

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Wonder if the Tories will go though with their plan to appoint a bunch of Tories to the Lords if they reject it...

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Good (imho) article on this by Robert Peston.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34637068

He makes an interesting, and very (again, imho) relevant point -

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The Government has been defeated!

Two motions have passed. One delaying the introducing of the cuts depending further investigation and one saying that current claimants should have the impact mitigated. The easy way out now is the for the Government to say it applies to new claimants only (won't be seen as a u-turn now either!) and be done with it. Either that or have a showdown with the HoL.

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I am delighted at this. The Government stated that 'they are the party of the working people' well they lied to the voter.

Osborne has tried to bring cruel cuts to Tax Credits. When my kids were young, l took any job to keep myself of the Dole. Tax Credits were a lifeline

Biggest problem for Osborne and Cameron, is that ANY money saved will probably be sent oversea's which they are proud to do. Instead of investing in creating jobs in the UK

Its appears to me after this cruel cut - that was defeated- would have hit quite a lote of people. But there again this government don't care. Next thing on the agenda will be something else.

You cannot run a country, under all this anxiety of what will happen next

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What that 2nd chamber of unelected ex-fat cat politicians and toffs that people moan about all the time, and want rid off ................

This is why the 2nd chambers works, as is.

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i was surprised to find that tax credits come from the inland revenue
and not the welfare works and pensions.
the cuts were not going to take anything off the £12B welfare dept
so what was they going to do with the £4.5 billion that was to be saved

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LOL has anyone noticed that Osborne looks like he's on really hard drugs?

seriously the man looks like he's flying!

oh and poor Dave. people are starting to realise he's a right evil TWiT and has had to reverse he's evil work.
he's not going to be happy.

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I am glad this is being reviewed - I believe there should be an impact assessment on those affected, and it should be phased in / balanced with raised income tax allowances & increased minimum wages.

btw, there was another interesting point made in the Robert Peston piece I linked to earlier

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You don't have to be Robert Peston to know that. It's what Labour do. ;)

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I can see big changes in politics now. Cameron wont put up with The Lords telling him what he can or can't do.

What l laughed about was the Tory MP saying afterwards, that The Lords are not an elected party.

Who put them in there - PMs As l understand it - Cameron WILL put Tory peers in there, I am sure there are plenty of millionaires who give money to the Tories, who will save the day.

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Arthur don't worry.
Dave is going soon.
nobody wants another Thatcher. his own party is about to throw him out.

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Sorry but I disagree. What is this bunch of unelected ex-fat cat politicians and toffs doing meddling in the affairs of the elected Government?

It's time this bunch took their last handout and get the fudge out of Rog.

We haven't needed this ermined gentry for decades; if they are going to start messing with financial planning then we need shot of them.

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Are we not forgetting that nothing can effect the Tories, as they arranged it so that they WILL serve five years.

I just wish the public could give ' a no vote of confidence' in The Tory Party, as they have lied to the electorate

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http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-...-benefit-cuts/

I have to laugh at this comment, by the biggest **** that walks London. If they cannot do something to stop a vote going to Parliament. Then whats the point of having them

Boris is a prat, he is always going on trips abroad to try and get business for the UK. Yet his mate David is quite willing to cut benefits for hard up voters. And yet the Conservative are pouring millions to oversea's countries while the UK suffer.

But him and Osborne should go into Cameron's bunker and say 'what are we doing' instead of clasping there hands in joy of how to make people suffer in the UK

The House of Lords made a judgment and the Tories sould accept the decision and stop making athreat

boris is a prat

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The Lords cannot stop a bill, they can delay it and suggest amendments but they can't stop it.