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heero_yuy 19-06-2015 10:04

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Perhaps more organisations like the OBR that can shine a light on what is really going on.

I did like that during the election the PM program referred politicians claims on expenditure, revenues etc to the "more or less" team from R4 for in-depth analysis - most revealing.

Osem 19-06-2015 10:08

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We need someone to tell us because I don't think the public's trust/confidence in our glorious leaders has ever been lower. Has anyone got any 'official' figures for that?

heero_yuy 19-06-2015 10:35

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35783897)
We need someone to tell us because I don't think the public's trust/confidence in our glorious leaders has ever been lower. Has anyone got any 'official' figures for that?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...9&d=1434709922

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These long term trends remind us that the crisis of trust in politicians is nothing new – we were measuring similarly low levels of trust over 30 years ago. But that doesn’t make it any less serious a challenge, particularly as we come up to an election that will be fiercely fought.

This long-running study also shows that trust levels are not fixed, and do shift as the context changes – which is seen particularly in the increasing trust in scientists and civil servants and decreasing trust in the clergy. ”
Ipsos source



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ianch99 19-06-2015 11:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35783789)
So does that mean you were unhappy with Alastair Darling and Gordon Brown as Chancellors, or doesn't their lack of economic qualifications count?

Why are you fixated with Labour Chancellors? It's the one we have had for the last 5 years that I am worried about

Hugh 19-06-2015 11:54

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35783909)
Why are you fixated with Labour Chancellors? It's the one we have had for the last 5 years that I am worried about

Because you were fixated on the fact that the current Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications....

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35783768)
At least Ed Balls has a qualification in Economics. Does Osbourne have one? and if not, are we worried he has control over our economy and is taking the country to a controversial place economically speaking? I am ..

It's like going on a road trip with someone who has not passed their driving test :D

So I asked if you were equally worried about the fact that the last two Labour Chancellors and the current Labour Shadow Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications either, and weren't you worried they took*/were going to take the country to a controversial place economically speaking? ;)

But you appear to think there is one set of requirements for a Conservative Chancellor, and a different set of requirements for Labour Chancellors / Shadow Chancellors...... :dozey:

*(Well, we know the answer to that question, don't we...)

Osem 19-06-2015 12:11

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35783900)

Thanks for that.

I'm sure mobile communications and the internet also have something to do with it. It's so much easier for any indiscretions, ill-judged comments, mistakes to be exposed and publicised nationally and internationally. These things always went on but weren't so widely known so reputations that would be destroyed now more often remained untarnished in the past.

ianch99 19-06-2015 12:45

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35783910)
Because you were fixated on the fact that the current Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications....

So I asked if you were equally worried about the fact that the last two Labour Chancellors and the current Labour Shadow Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications either, and weren't you worried they took*/were going to take the country to a controversial place economically speaking? ;)

But you appear to think there is one set of requirements for a Conservative Chancellor, and a different set of requirements for Labour Chancellors / Shadow Chancellors...... :dozey:

*(Well, we know the answer to that question, don't we...)

Nice to see you ask a question and then answer it yourself. Saves me the trouble. Enjoy your Tory Chancer .. Chancellor ..

Hugh 19-06-2015 15:51

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I will, thanks.....

Ed Balls had all the qualifications for Chance(llo)r except the most important one - being an MP.... :D

Democracy in action...

Osem 19-06-2015 17:06

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Thank the Lord... :D

He could so easily have been Chancellor and now he's researching stability in the US. Phew!

ianch99 19-06-2015 23:15

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35783929)
I will, thanks.....

Ed Balls had all the qualifications for Chance(llo)r except the most important one - being an MP.... :D

Democracy in action...

Come back in 5 years and then tell me your happy.

24% of the electorate .. Democracy in action!

Hugh 20-06-2015 07:53

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35784012)
Come back in 5 years and then tell me your happy.

24% of the electorate .. Democracy in action!

2 million more votes than Labour, and more votes than Labour gathered when they won in 2001 and 2005 - so yes, democracy in action.

Nice to see sour grapes ares still in season.....:D

ianch99 20-06-2015 08:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35784030)
2 million more votes than Labour, and more votes than Labour gathered when they won in 2001 and 2005 - so yes, democracy in action.

Nice to see sour grapes ares still in season.....:D

Nope the grapes are nice and sweet thanks :D

24% of the electorate gives Dave and George a mandate to take the country into the abyss ..

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Hugh 20-06-2015 11:11

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Yes, because there was no previous Labour/Abyss interface scenario.......

Under the election rules that you never complained about until Labour lost, the Conservatives won - you can either suck it up, or keep crying "wah, wah - it's not fair..".

Ramrod 20-06-2015 13:08

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35783890)
God only knows what can be done about it. :shrug:

What you need is a benevolent dictatorship. Not sure if such a thing has ever existed.

Osem 20-06-2015 15:00

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35784093)
What you need is a benevolent dictatorship. Not sure if such a thing has ever existed.

Well I like to think I operate one at home... :erm:


:D


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