Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

I wonder if his supposedly disciple-like followers feel in the least disappointed?

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

You would have to ask them that as to me the man to me represents everything that is wrong with this obsessive celebrity culture we have in this country in building up people who have no talent at all apart from opening their mouth.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Amen to that. :tu:

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

I think Miliband damaged his own chances without the aid of Russell Brand. After all, he lost the election *despite* Cameron's government being in power while a record number of people are using food banks, prices are going up (with the Government seeming unwilling or unable to tackle them), especially food. Unemployment is going down, but seemingly as a result of low paid jobs or zero hour contracts, so we don't know what the actual figure is. We also have a Government that his introduced a tax that would seem to massively penalise benefits claimants while not really affecting the rich (the bedroom tax). These are *all* things any halfway decent opposition leader should be able to use as weapons against the incumbent Prime Minister, and possibly even force a vote of no confidence. After all, despite 5 years of severe cuts, the debt is *still* worse under David Cameron than it was under Labour.

Ed (along with the entire Labour leadership) has failed to do ANYTHING with all of those.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

I think that Labour need someone strong enough to take on Cameron. As the way things are going, we will have a General Strike by the Summer.

The aggro started just a day after Cameron got elected, with a demo outside Downing street.

My own opinion is that the ones that have come forward are NOT strong enough. It would be nice to have a woman though

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Arthur! Nice to see you again, assume you have been drinking heavily and then took part in the demo yesterday?*

Who would you like to see lead the party then?

*To be clear, that was meant as a joke, not an insult.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Unfortunately they were spending no more above receipts than Germany or France, less in fact, so that doesn't seem to work.

It also didn't seem too effective for the Conservatives. Despite their having run a structural deficit every year between 1979 and 1997.

I'm thinking Blair's success was partly due to the poor quality of the opposition.

Charts on debt-GDP ratios 97 - 2006:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/05/16.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/05/17.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/05/18.png

Incidentally we still had a lower debt to GDP ratio than Germany or France in 2010, too, when debt consolidation actually began under Darling. It was accelerated in 2011, then backed off of again in 2013/14 to try and buy the 2015 election.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Dan Jarvis rules himself out of race.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10240221.html

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

That's a shame IMHO but I can understand why.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Do you remember the Tories rioting in Whitehall in 2005 when Tony Blair won with 35% of the vote - no, you don't, because it didn't happen......

Sore losers - move on.....

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

FGS a general strike against a properly elected government just because the unions couldn't get their puppet in #10. Ain't going to happen.

That's just the loony left being sore losers. 12 arrested and I hope they throw the book at them especially the one that defaced the memorial.


There's talk of Labour abandoning the electoral college that gives the unions so much say over the leader and moving to one man, one vote. Party members only.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

:tu:

People like Arthur have selective memories and always take the easy option of blaming other folks and simply making stuff up. There's far more intimidation, aggression and vitriol emanating from that direction but still they bang on about 'nasty' Tories. It's pathetic.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Can't disagree with that.

But as far as the leadership of the party is concerned, it should be the person with the best talent and views that are representative of the people they stand for, regardless of gender, race, colour, etc.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

But not Diane Abbott or Harriet Harman eh? Both sent their kids to selective, fee-paying grammar schools whilst insisting that the riff-raff (all the hard working people) send their kids to state schools.

It would surely contradict your principles.

Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 

Its no good preaching to others if they can't preach to themselves.

---------- Post added at 17:25 ---------- Previous post was at 17:13 ----------

David Miliband criticises brother's election approach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32697212