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RichardCoulter 25-02-2015 18:52

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761482)
Is it not the case that the Representation of the people Act of 1918 predates any anti racist legislation as we now know it?

The Race Relations Act 1965 was the first legislation in the United Kingdom to address racial discrimination.

Mr Angry 25-02-2015 18:55

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761503)
The Race Relations Act 1965 was the first legislation in the United Kingdom to address racial discrimination.

That is not the point, nor is it in dispute. You stated "Anti racist legislation was the first anti discrimination law to be introduced.". It wasn't.

Russ 25-02-2015 19:06

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761503)
The Race Relations Act 1965 was the first legislation in the United Kingdom to address racial discrimination.

Could you cite some of the sources from your dissertation?

Hugh 25-02-2015 19:33

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761465)
http://www.legislation.gov.uk

All the information that anyone requires should be available here.

New definition of 'helpful' I hadn't come across before...

You may as well have posted 'it's on the internet'.... :rolleyes:

RichardCoulter 25-02-2015 20:55

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35761505)
That is not the point, nor is it in dispute. You stated "Anti racist legislation was the first anti discrimination law to be introduced.". It wasn't.

Ok, add "in relatively modern times" to my previous statement.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35761514)
New definition of 'helpful' I hadn't come across before...

You may as well have posted 'it's on the internet'.... :rolleyes:

All the relevant legislation under discussion is on that site for you to peruse at your leisure. This is a luxury compared to when I was at University- their was no internet!

Pierre 25-02-2015 21:24

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761523)
Ok, add "in relatively modern times" to my previous statement.

early 20th century is relatively modern times.

Hugh 25-02-2015 21:31

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761523)
Ok, add "in relatively modern times" to my previous statement.



All the relevant legislation under discussion is on that site for you to peruse at your leisure. This is a luxury compared to when I was at University- their was no internet!

Why in the name of Cthulhu should I have to research to prove your point.

Did you try that approach with your Lecturers? "I haven't bothered referencing (Harvard or otherwise) - I expect you to find the authors, books, and page numbers; they're all in the under-grad library....". :rolleyes:

Ignitionnet 25-02-2015 22:42

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35761544)
Why in the name of Cthulhu should I have to research to prove your point.

You so didn't just use Cthulhu's name in vain.... :erm:

RichardCoulter 25-02-2015 23:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35761544)
Why in the name of Cthulhu should I have to research to prove your point.

Did you try that approach with your Lecturers? "I haven't bothered referencing (Harvard or otherwise) - I expect you to find the authors, books, and page numbers; they're all in the under-grad library....". :rolleyes:

I made it clear in post 35 that I would not be doing any research for the benefit of others. If this results in people not believing what I have stated; so be it.

I don't know why you've developed a sudden aversion to searching for the information that's required. The norm is for you to constantly do this to others in order to disprove what they say or undermine them at what seems like every available opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35761568)
You so didn't just use Cthulhu's name in vain.... :erm:

Lol, I had to Google that :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

Russ 26-02-2015 09:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761571)
I made it clear in post 35 that I would not be doing any research for the benefit of others.

94% of people who say that sort of thing on discussion forums are aware there is no research available.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761571)
]If this results in people not believing what I have stated; so be it.

Job done.

RichardCoulter 26-02-2015 15:08

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35761600)
94% of people who say that sort of thing on discussion forums are aware there is no research available.

Job done.

Yes there is, if you really wish to avail yourself of this information take a look on the Government legislation website- it's all there.

If you take my earlier example of 'incitement to racial hatred'; do let me know if you find anything similar with regards to similar behaviour towards other minority groups.

If you aren't bothered, like you say, job done.

Russ 26-02-2015 21:40

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761676)
Yes there is, if you really wish to avail yourself of this information take a look on the Government legislation website- it's all there.

Thanks. Could you cite some of the sources from your dissertation?

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761676)

If you take my earlier example of 'incitement to racial hatred'; do let me know if you find anything similar with regards to similar behaviour towards other minority groups.

Do you think it may be due to more attacks being based on someone's race than their disability?

GrimUpNorth 26-02-2015 23:16

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761208)
Disabled people make up 16% of the population, yet get only 2.5% of TV acting and presenting jobs.

Very dubious use of official statistics there. Is the 16% really relating to the whole population or just working age adults?

Cheers

Grim

RichardCoulter 27-02-2015 17:43

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35761736)
Thanks. Could you cite some of the sources from your dissertation?

Do you think it may be due to more attacks being based on someone's race than their disability?

No, it was years ago and I don't have the books anymore. As I explained earlier, there was no internet when I took my degree.

I don't know as i've not compared attacks based on race as opposed to disability, but I don't see the relevance. If it is wrong to incite racial hatred, it is wrong to incite hatred towards other minority groups regardless.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35761751)
Very dubious use of official statistics there. Is the 16% really relating to the whole population or just working age adults?

Cheers

Grim

An interesting question. The statistics came from Channel 5; so they would be the best people to contact for an answer.

GrimUpNorth 27-02-2015 18:04

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761878)
An interesting question. The statistics came from Channel 5; so they would be the best people to contact for an answer.

I know the answer, but had hoped you'd actually check something for yourself for once. My question came about because I'm aware of the governments statistics which do not quite agree with your assertion. So may I suggest you search the gov.uk website for facts before you spout rubbish.

Credibility is like virginity - you can only loose both once.

Cheers

Grim


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